Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
in [Storage]
|
From: Arno Wagner on 10 Apr 2008 09:50 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Maxim S. Shatskih <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote: >> I can't speak for their RAID cards, but the SCSI card in my old desktop >> was flaky from day one. After numerous tech support equiries, driver & >> firmware updates, it still bluescreens my computer occasionally. >> >> I will never buy another Adaptec product. > I run the Adaptec SCSI card (160MB/s, the one with Windows driver > "adpu160m") for 8 years or so. No issues. The problem with Adaptec is not that all their products are bad. The problem is that you cannot tell beforehand, as some are really, really bad, while others are acceptable. All are expensive though, which makes the bad ones completely unacceptable. Arno
From: Cydrome Leader on 10 Apr 2008 11:03 In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote: >> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader >> <presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: > >>>In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>>>>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >>>>>> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional >>>>>> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. >>>>>> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support >>>>>> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. >>>>>> >>>>>> Expensive trash. >>>>>> >>>>>> Arno >>>> >>>>> never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken >>>>> arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. >>>> >>>>> what firmware versions are you running? >>>> >>>> As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, >>>> it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years >>>> ago. >>> >>>This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. > >> Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: >> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553/adaptec-serial-ata-raid-2410sa.html > >> PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 > > Thanks. Seems some people are shamelessly lying just to give the > impression some others are wrong. Disgusting. > > Arno So, has anybody come up with a single problem with the 2420sa yet, or do we have more stories about how your 1740 sucked 30 years ago, then 15 then you forgot because you never even had one. 2402sa = excellent sata RAID card.
From: nik Simpson on 10 Apr 2008 11:35 Bob Willard wrote: > > With RAID-1 (mirroring) you still should do regular backups. RAID-1 > only protects against failure of a HD, and supplies no protection > against failures of any other piece of hardware, or glitches due to > software or environment or fumble-fingers. IMHO, since the HD is one > of the most reliable pieces of a PC, RAID-1 has very little value > for a home. Hmm, if I look at all the hardware failures I've in the last 15 or so years, hard disks are probably the least reliable part of my desktops. I can't recall a CPU, memory, graphics card or motherboard failure in that time, maybe I'm just lucky (or unlucky depending on how you look at it.) -- Nik Simpson
From: Arno Wagner on 10 Apr 2008 12:29 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: > In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote: >>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader >>> <presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >> >>>>In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>>>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: >> >>>>>>> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional >>>>>>> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. >>>>>>> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support >>>>>>> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Expensive trash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arno >>>>> >>>>>> never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken >>>>>> arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. >>>>> >>>>>> what firmware versions are you running? >>>>> >>>>> As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, >>>>> it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years >>>>> ago. >>>> >>>>This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. >> >>> Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: >>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553/adaptec-serial-ata-raid-2410sa.html >> >>> PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 >> >> Thanks. Seems some people are shamelessly lying just to give the >> impression some others are wrong. Disgusting. >> >> Arno > So, has anybody come up with a single problem with the 2420sa yet, or do > we have more stories about how your 1740 sucked 30 years ago, then 15 then > you forgot because you never even had one. I never had a 1740 and never claimed I did. You are confused. > 2402sa = excellent sata RAID card. Look to the source of this information to assess credibility. Arno
From: Maxim S. Shatskih on 10 Apr 2008 15:25
> > I run the Adaptec SCSI card (160MB/s, the one with Windows driver > > "adpu160m") for 8 years or so. No issues. > > The problem with Adaptec is not that all their products are bad. Thanks. For me, this really means - bad products. > All are expensive though Yes. LSI/Tekram controller (Windows driver "sym_u3") is much cheaper and also works OK. -- Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim(a)storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com |