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From: e p chandler on 9 Apr 2008 23:47
On Apr 9, 4:34 pm, "Gerry Ford" <ge...(a)nowhere.ford> wrote:
> "Bart Vandewoestyne" <MyFirstName.MyLastN...(a)telenet.be> wrote in message
>
> news:WB5Lj.18942$Wf3.3071(a)newsfe16.ams2...> On 2008-04-09, paul.richard.tho...(a)gmail.com
> > <paul.richard.tho...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> The wikipedia page for fortran has good references, including what I
> >> suspect would be the majority vote - Metcalfe, Reid and Cohen.
>
> > I confirm.  Mike, John and Malcolm's `Fortran 95/2003 Explained
> > (Third Edition)' is -in my opinion- the best book you can buy for
> > your purpose.
>
> You're gonna want to spell Metcalf correctly if you're to buy his book.
> It's probably gonna be north of $100, even used.
>
[snip]

> I think Elliot Chandler has a book he likes that isn't MR&C.

Mmm. The only recent book I bought _was_ MR&C, hardcover too. I think
it was about $140 (special order).
Alas, bookstores have a limited selection these days. [I miss the
_original_ Borders on State Street in Ann Arbor.] Most of the ones
I've seen either spend too much time covering programming
fundamentals, or are padded out with problems in fields I do not know.

-- e


From: Charles Coldwell on 10 Apr 2008 09:29
paul.richard.thomas(a)gmail.com writes:

> The wikipedia page for fortran has good references, including what I
> suspect would be the majority vote - Metcalfe, Reid and Cohen.

No doubt MR&C is the definitive book on the subject, but I'm not sure
it's the one I would choose for updating one's knowledge from Fortran IV
to Fortran 2003 (IMHO, it's written for a pretty advanced audience).
OTOH, I don't know a better alternative that's still in print.

I find it useful to have both the F90/95 and F95/2003 editions of
M&R/MR&C handy as there are enough differences between compilers in
terms of which of the '2003 features are supported that sometimes it's
useful to write in a strictly conforming dialect of one of the older
standards.

For the language lawyer in me, I like Luc Chamberland's "Fortran 90, A
Reference Guide" (out of print, I believe). This books is fun: the F90
language elements are printed in blue so if you want strictly conforming
F77 you only use the bits that are printed in black.

Chip

--
Charles M. "Chip" Coldwell
"Turn on, log in, tune out"
GPG Key ID: 852E052F
GPG Key Fingerprint: 77E5 2B51 4907 F08A 7E92 DE80 AFA9 9A8F 852E 052F
From: Kurt Kallblad on 10 Apr 2008 13:06

"Charles Coldwell" <coldwell(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rzp4pa9yh24.fsf(a)gmail.com...
> paul.richard.thomas(a)gmail.com writes:
>
>> The wikipedia page for fortran has good references, including what
>> I
>> suspect would be the majority vote - Metcalfe, Reid and Cohen.
>
> No doubt MR&C is the definitive book on the subject, but I'm not
> sure
> it's the one I would choose for updating one's knowledge from
> Fortran IV
> to Fortran 2003 (IMHO, it's written for a pretty advanced audience).
> OTOH, I don't know a better alternative that's still in print.
>
> I find it useful to have both the F90/95 and F95/2003 editions of
> M&R/MR&C handy as there are enough differences between compilers in
> terms of which of the '2003 features are supported that sometimes
> it's
> useful to write in a strictly conforming dialect of one of the older
> standards.
>
> For the language lawyer in me, I like Luc Chamberland's "Fortran 90,
> A
> Reference Guide" (out of print, I believe). This books is fun: the
> F90
> language elements are printed in blue so if you want strictly
> conforming
> F77 you only use the bits that are printed in black.

I couldn't resist to get away from Fortran:
Old fun trick?
Many old manuals used that trick to hinder copying. The old copy
machines
was not sensible to blue color! Once upon a time I had at least two
meters
of MS's and other's manuals like that.
Kurt

>
> Chip
>
> --
> Charles M. "Chip" Coldwell
> "Turn on, log in, tune out"
> GPG Key ID: 852E052F
> GPG Key Fingerprint: 77E5 2B51 4907 F08A 7E92 DE80 AFA9 9A8F 852E
> 052F

From: Gary Scott on 10 Apr 2008 13:54
Kurt Kallblad wrote:

>
> "Charles Coldwell" <coldwell(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rzp4pa9yh24.fsf(a)gmail.com...
>
>> paul.richard.thomas(a)gmail.com writes:
>>
>>> The wikipedia page for fortran has good references, including what I
>>> suspect would be the majority vote - Metcalfe, Reid and Cohen.
>>
>>
>> No doubt MR&C is the definitive book on the subject, but I'm not sure
>> it's the one I would choose for updating one's knowledge from Fortran IV
>> to Fortran 2003 (IMHO, it's written for a pretty advanced audience).
>> OTOH, I don't know a better alternative that's still in print.
>>
>> I find it useful to have both the F90/95 and F95/2003 editions of
>> M&R/MR&C handy as there are enough differences between compilers in
>> terms of which of the '2003 features are supported that sometimes it's
>> useful to write in a strictly conforming dialect of one of the older
>> standards.
>>
>> For the language lawyer in me, I like Luc Chamberland's "Fortran 90, A
>> Reference Guide" (out of print, I believe). This books is fun: the F90
>> language elements are printed in blue so if you want strictly conforming
>> F77 you only use the bits that are printed in black.
>
>
> I couldn't resist to get away from Fortran:
> Old fun trick?
> Many old manuals used that trick to hinder copying. The old copy machines
> was not sensible to blue color! Once upon a time I had at least two meters
> of MS's and other's manuals like that.

Some suitable scheme (i really like that one) should be mandatory for
reference manuals.

> Kurt
>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>> --
>> Charles M. "Chip" Coldwell
>> "Turn on, log in, tune out"
>> GPG Key ID: 852E052F
>> GPG Key Fingerprint: 77E5 2B51 4907 F08A 7E92 DE80 AFA9 9A8F 852E 052F
>
>


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From: robert.corbett on 11 Apr 2008 00:40
On Apr 9, 1:53 pm, nos...(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote:
>
> > It's probably gonna be north of $100, even used.
>
> Maybe if you are talking monopoly money or some such thing. (Or perhaps
> Zimbabwe money, which seems to be less valuable than monopoly money
> these days). If that $ was American dollars, Amazon lists the book for
> $65.95 new list price and references people selling it new for as low as
> $55.
>
> Hmm. I see that there is also a hardback version. Maybe that's what you
> are talking about. I wasn't even aware that it was available in
> hardback. I've never seen one of the hardback copies; maybe the $170
> list price is why.

I bought a copy of the hardback when it first came out.
It cost only $128 then. For the money, I expected to get
a good binding. I was proven wrong. It is better than
perfect bound, but not by much. Plus, the front edge of
the spine has a 2 cm tear in it.

Bob Corbett
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