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From: Graham Vincent on 28 Jun 2008 22:40
Hello.

Upgrade time and I'm having trouble booting Win98SE in a
Vista/Fedora9/Win98SE triple boot setup.

Old system was a 2 GHz Celeron with IDE drives. Win98SE was on hda1 so I
used partimage to save it to an external USB drive.

New system is an Intel core 2 duo with SATA drives. Vista was
pre-installed on sda1(primary partition). I put Fedora 9 on multiple
partitions within extended partition sda2 and installed grub on the
sda1 master boot record with the rest of it on the /boot partition (sda5).

I restored Win98SE from the image file to primary partition sda3.

From Fedora I can mount and see the Win98SE files so I think the restore
worked OK.

Vista & Fedora boot OK but when I try to get into Win98SE it just hangs at
the grub boot command. Grub.conf below:

# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
# root (hd0,4)
# kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda6
# initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64 ro root=UUID=be731d57-5c22-461f-b59a-d0447aec7e83 rhgb quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64.img
title Fedora (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64 ro root=UUID=be731d57-5c22-461f-b59a-d0447aec7e83 rhgb quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64.img
title Vista
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
makeactive
boot
title Windows98SE
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
chainloader +1
makeactive
boot

I've tried using hide to stop the Vista partition being seen but that made
no difference. If you hide the Fedora partition it won't boot at all
because it can't find grub.conf.

Any suggestions gratefully received - all my wife's genealogy programs on
the Win98 partition and it looks like I'm in trouble :-(

Thanks,

Graham
From: 1PW on 29 Jun 2008 02:57
Graham Vincent wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Upgrade time and I'm having trouble booting Win98SE in a
> Vista/Fedora9/Win98SE triple boot setup.
>
> Old system was a 2 GHz Celeron with IDE drives. Win98SE was on hda1 so I
> used partimage to save it to an external USB drive.
>
> New system is an Intel core 2 duo with SATA drives. Vista was
> pre-installed on sda1(primary partition). I put Fedora 9 on multiple
> partitions within extended partition sda2 and installed grub on the
> sda1 master boot record with the rest of it on the /boot partition (sda5).
>
> I restored Win98SE from the image file to primary partition sda3.
>
> From Fedora I can mount and see the Win98SE files so I think the restore
> worked OK.
>
> Vista & Fedora boot OK but when I try to get into Win98SE it just hangs at
> the grub boot command. Grub.conf below:
>
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
> # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> # root (hd0,4)
> # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda6
> # initrd /initrd-version.img
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=0
> timeout=5
> splashimage=(hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> #hiddenmenu
> title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64)
> root (hd0,4)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64 ro root=UUID=be731d57-5c22-461f-b59a-d0447aec7e83 rhgb quiet
> initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64.img
> title Fedora (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64)
> root (hd0,4)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64 ro root=UUID=be731d57-5c22-461f-b59a-d0447aec7e83 rhgb quiet
> initrd /initrd-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64.img
> title Vista
> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> chainloader +1
> makeactive
> boot
> title Windows98SE
> rootnoverify (hd0,2)
> chainloader +1
> makeactive
> boot
>
> I've tried using hide to stop the Vista partition being seen but that made
> no difference. If you hide the Fedora partition it won't boot at all
> because it can't find grub.conf.
>
> Any suggestions gratefully received - all my wife's genealogy programs on
> the Win98 partition and it looks like I'm in trouble :-(
>
> Thanks,
>
> Graham

Hello Graham:

I believe I've heard that the Windows 98SE OS will need to be
installed and not simply restored from a backup. Of course
W98SE won't know what to do with the second processor.

I'm sure others will contribute soon. Are you able to begin a
bootup from your Windows 98SE install CD? Others may wish to
know how much RAM you have installed.

Best wishes to you.

--
1PW

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From: Douglas Mayne on 29 Jun 2008 11:42
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:40:39 +1200, Graham Vincent wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Upgrade time and I'm having trouble booting Win98SE in a
> Vista/Fedora9/Win98SE triple boot setup.
>
> Old system was a 2 GHz Celeron with IDE drives. Win98SE was on hda1 so I
> used partimage to save it to an external USB drive.
>
> New system is an Intel core 2 duo with SATA drives. Vista was
> pre-installed on sda1(primary partition). I put Fedora 9 on multiple
> partitions within extended partition sda2 and installed grub on the
> sda1 master boot record with the rest of it on the /boot partition (sda5).
>
> I restored Win98SE from the image file to primary partition sda3.
>
> From Fedora I can mount and see the Win98SE files so I think the restore
> worked OK.
>
<snip>
>
> Any suggestions gratefully received - all my wife's genealogy programs on
> the Win98 partition and it looks like I'm in trouble :-(
>
> Thanks,
>
> Graham
>
I can't vouch for what W98 will do with your new SATA based system. I
installed W95, W98 for others (to help recover from virus infestations),
but I never have run it myself. On the "NT" branch of MS OS's, there is
some MS documentation describing how to upgrade your motherboard. Perhaps,
there is similar documentation for upgrading hardware on W98. I am pretty
sure MS has discontinued support for that OS. I wouldn't hold out a lot of
hope that it will ever boot from a partition number that is different from
the one where it was installed.

But because you have already proceeded past that point, maybe the question
to ask is whether you can get by with just the _files_ on the
partition. For example, can you could reinstall whatever genealogy
program she is using and then import the old data?

If that doesn't work, then do you still have the old system? If so, that
could become her dedicated geneology workstation (I guess).

--
Douglas Mayne
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