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From: Joel Koltner on 29 Jun 2010 12:36
Robert Baer wrote:
> We wonder what Constitution those judges have been reading. Because
> the Constitution we've read clearly states under the Second Amendment,
> "[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
> infringed."
> Despite the Second Amendment's clear message, three justices
> dissented.

Oh, come on... I'm a second amendment supporter, but it's definitely twisting
things to leave out the bit about "the militia" and not conceding that it was
poorly written -- regardless of how you'd like to interpret it. Wikipedia has
lots to say about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

---Joel

From: Jim Thompson on 29 Jun 2010 13:12
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:36:50 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Robert Baer wrote:
>> We wonder what Constitution those judges have been reading. Because
>> the Constitution we've read clearly states under the Second Amendment,
>> "[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
>> infringed."
>> Despite the Second Amendment's clear message, three justices
>> dissented.
>
>Oh, come on... I'm a second amendment supporter, but it's definitely twisting
>things to leave out the bit about "the militia" and not conceding that it was
>poorly written -- regardless of how you'd like to interpret it. Wikipedia has
>lots to say about it:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>
>---Joel

Read Jefferson's letters... the amendment was written to _ensure_
citizen defense against a tyrannical government... like we have now
:-(

...Jim Thompson
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From: UltimatePatriot on 29 Jun 2010 13:30
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:12:53 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:36:50 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Robert Baer wrote:
>>> We wonder what Constitution those judges have been reading. Because
>>> the Constitution we've read clearly states under the Second Amendment,
>>> "[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
>>> infringed."
>>> Despite the Second Amendment's clear message, three justices
>>> dissented.
>>
>>Oh, come on... I'm a second amendment supporter, but it's definitely twisting
>>things to leave out the bit about "the militia" and not conceding that it was
>>poorly written -- regardless of how you'd like to interpret it. Wikipedia has
>>lots to say about it:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>>
>>---Joel
>
>Read Jefferson's letters... the amendment was written to _ensure_
>citizen defense against a tyrannical government... like we have now
>:-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Take up arms!

Call for redress!
From: Joel Koltner on 29 Jun 2010 14:48
Jim Thompson wrote:
> Read Jefferson's letters... the amendment was written to _ensure_
> citizen defense against a tyrannical government... like we have now
> :-(

I sometimes wonder whether or not the second amendment was written in a
slightly-less-than-crystal-clear manner specifically so that (1) each
contributor could have something slightly different in mind (since Jefferson
very clearly did mean what you say there) but (2) they could get the thing
passed without having to fully flesh out such quibbles, just figuring they
would leave it for future generations to fight over.

I do think it's a stretch to suggest that anyone there at the time was
thinking the average citizen shouldn't be able to walk down the street with,
e.g., a pistol on his person.

---Joel


From: m II on 29 Jun 2010 19:04
PenUltimateParrotPecker wrote:

> Tape up arms!
>
> Call for undress!

Wow. I love it when you get assertive. Where did you last use those
lines? I thought I heard you at the Retirement Centre last night
yelling the very same thing.

I must say the silhouettes on the windows were none too flattering.
You emptied the purses of all those who wouldn't 'put out'.

The Law will be catching up to soon, deviant.




mike


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