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From: First of One on 22 Jan 2008 20:13
Nothing too surprising here. Games that previously scaled well in Crossfire
saw excellent performance with the X2, even faster than 8800GT SLI in some
cases. Games that previously didn't scale well, saw poor performance.
http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review

Interestingly, all the Crossfire functions are managed by the large bridge
chip onboard. The drivers see a single card. This could be a blessing
(dual-monitors function transparently) or a curse (the odd game that shows
graphics corruption in Crossfire mode).

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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."



From: Tony DiMarzio on 23 Jan 2008 00:31
"First of One" <root(a)127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:46WdnQ3HyMtHCQvanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> Nothing too surprising here. Games that previously scaled well in
> Crossfire saw excellent performance with the X2, even faster than 8800GT
> SLI in some cases. Games that previously didn't scale well, saw poor
> performance.
> http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review
>
> Interestingly, all the Crossfire functions are managed by the large bridge
> chip onboard. The drivers see a single card. This could be a blessing
> (dual-monitors function transparently) or a curse (the odd game that shows
> graphics corruption in Crossfire mode).
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>

Those COJ scores are pretty impressive. It would have been nice if ATI/AMD
had the R680 lineup available at the time of the 8800 series launch. Better
late than never I guess.

Tony


From: First of One on 23 Jan 2008 01:00
Having the R680 (HD3870 X2) at the time of the 8800 series launch would have
been an absolutely impossible leap. Remember, despite being late, ATi/AMD
still rushed the HD2900XT out the door, with certain parts of the silicon
not working correctly (hardware AA resolve, UVD...).

To the benefit of the consumer though, the 3870 was mainstream-priced and
available in reasonable quantities. Remember the X850XT Platinum-rare
Edition cards going for $500? Did those things really contribute to healthy
competition?

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

"Tony DiMarzio" <tony.dimarzio(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:zYmdnWbRqPPQTAvanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
> Those COJ scores are pretty impressive. It would have been nice if ATI/AMD
> had the R680 lineup available at the time of the 8800 series launch.
> Better late than never I guess.
>
> Tony


From: Tony DiMarzio on 23 Jan 2008 11:02
Oops. I meant the _RV670_ lineup should have been the product lineup
available from the ATI side at 8800 series launch. It would have been a much
more competitive offering from the red team. Then, the R680 should have
followed as the high end part.

Yes, it's a completely unrealistic timeline, given delay-plagued history and
bugged silicon of the HD2900XT (R600). I'm just saying ... it would have
been nice :)

Either way, I'm not upgrading next (to a card from either player) until
Crysis is playable at 1600x1200 with full/max detail as well as full AA/AF
with a single card solution. When that kind of power is available from a
single card, it will be decision time for me.

Tony

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"First of One" <root(a)127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:qKKdnXgOGaGWRQvanZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> Having the R680 (HD3870 X2) at the time of the 8800 series launch would
> have been an absolutely impossible leap. Remember, despite being late,
> ATi/AMD still rushed the HD2900XT out the door, with certain parts of the
> silicon not working correctly (hardware AA resolve, UVD...).
>
> To the benefit of the consumer though, the 3870 was mainstream-priced and
> available in reasonable quantities. Remember the X850XT Platinum-rare
> Edition cards going for $500? Did those things really contribute to
> healthy competition?
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>
> "Tony DiMarzio" <tony.dimarzio(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zYmdnWbRqPPQTAvanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>> Those COJ scores are pretty impressive. It would have been nice if
>> ATI/AMD had the R680 lineup available at the time of the 8800 series
>> launch. Better late than never I guess.
>>
>> Tony
>
>


From: John Lewis on 24 Jan 2008 12:47
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:02:07 -0500, "Tony DiMarzio"
<tony.dimarzio(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>Oops. I meant the _RV670_ lineup should have been the product lineup
>available from the ATI side at 8800 series launch. It would have been a much
>more competitive offering from the red team. Then, the R680 should have
>followed as the high end part.
>
>Yes, it's a completely unrealistic timeline, given delay-plagued history and
>bugged silicon of the HD2900XT (R600). I'm just saying ... it would have
>been nice :)
>
>Either way, I'm not upgrading next (to a card from either player) until
>Crysis is playable at 1600x1200 with full/max detail as well as full AA/AF
>with a single card solution. When that kind of power is available from a
>single card, it will be decision time for me.
>

Not too long now for the single-card/single-CHIP solution to this woe.
Won't be inexpensive, but hey buy 2 cards using the same chip and use
the second oine for physics acceleration when not using it to impress
your friends with the fastest desktop graphics (in SLI) on the planet.

John Lewis

>Tony
>
>--
>Tony DiMarzio
>tony.dimarzio(a)gmail.com
>"First of One" <root(a)127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>news:qKKdnXgOGaGWRQvanZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> Having the R680 (HD3870 X2) at the time of the 8800 series launch would
>> have been an absolutely impossible leap. Remember, despite being late,
>> ATi/AMD still rushed the HD2900XT out the door, with certain parts of the
>> silicon not working correctly (hardware AA resolve, UVD...).
>>
>> To the benefit of the consumer though, the 3870 was mainstream-priced and
>> available in reasonable quantities. Remember the X850XT Platinum-rare
>> Edition cards going for $500? Did those things really contribute to
>> healthy competition?
>>
>> --
>> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
>> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
>> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>>
>> "Tony DiMarzio" <tony.dimarzio(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:zYmdnWbRqPPQTAvanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>>> Those COJ scores are pretty impressive. It would have been nice if
>>> ATI/AMD had the R680 lineup available at the time of the 8800 series
>>> launch. Better late than never I guess.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>
>>
>
>

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