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From: Richard Crowley on 18 Jun 2008 12:07 "Romeo Rondeau" <eveyone(a)ease.com> wrote in message news:Gc16k.8648$jI5.4394(a)flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... > Scott Dorsey wrote: >> Laurence Payne <lp(a)laurencepayne.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:03:32 -0500, Frank Stearns >>> <franks.pacifier.com(a)pacifier.net> wrote: >>> >>>> You must mean those horrid things with a mini TRS plug connected to a >>>> sound card with itty-bitty on-board poweramps... >>> Have those been made in the last 10 years? >> >> Millions of 'em. They are everywhere, and they are probably the third >> most popular way people listen to music today, behind iPods and car >> stereos. >> --scott >> >> > > I haven't seen one with a poweramp in years. If the antecedent seems to be ambiguous, a quick review of the subject line is helpful.
From: Arny Krueger on 18 Jun 2008 12:17 "Richard Crowley" <rcrowley(a)xp7rt.net> wrote in message news:AZ-dnWNkwf4krMTVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d(a)posted.pcez > "Arny Krueger" wrote ... >> "William Sommerwerck" wrote >>> "Richard Crowley" wrote >> >>>> There are NO "computer speakers" that are worth a >>>> steaming pile of fresh garbage. >> >> Simply not true. Computer speakers can be an opportunity >> to provide improved price/performance due to the huge market that they >> address and the possible economies of >> scale. I'm under the impression that 100,000's of the largest >> Monsoon computer speaker set were sold. This relatively >> huge market enabled a number of economies of scale which >> resulted in excellent performance at the price point. > > Since the OP is proposing to buy a new pair of speakers > at this time, discussion of some historic icon, long out of > circulation seems hardly relevant. > > Next time I will remember to qualify my statements as > referring to the present time. I had hoped that my use of > the present tense would convey that intent. I only picked on those as examples because I know some stuff about them and how they came to be. The market for quality computer speakers did not magically appear when the first Monsoon was sold, and suddenly disappear when the last one was sold. I'm under the impression that some of the better Klipsch computer speakers are pretty good, for example. Cambridge Soundworks and Bose have offerings, the latter having poor price performance but respectable sound. When the Monsoon was being developed they did some competitive product studies. I had the opportunity to listen to the samples, and some of them weren't all that bad.
From: Richard Crowley on 18 Jun 2008 12:25 "Arny Krueger" wrote ... > I only picked on those as examples because I know some stuff about them > and how they came to be. The market for quality computer speakers did not > magically appear when the first Monsoon was sold, and suddenly disappear > when the last one was sold. Certainly most of us here think there is a market for decent "computer speakers". But I fear that we are not representative of the general market and insufficient in number to be interesting to any major vendor. Not to mention that the laws of physics are in direct conflict with the desire to make speakers small enough to position on a crowded desk (etc.) > I'm under the impression that some of the better Klipsch computer speakers > are pretty good, for example. Cambridge Soundworks and Bose have > offerings, the latter having poor price performance but respectable sound. Do ANY of them adequately cover the hole between the "sub- woofer" and the "satellite" speakers? That appears to be the main deficiency in any "computer speaker" set.
From: Arny Krueger on 18 Jun 2008 13:49 "Richard Crowley" <rcrowley(a)xp7rt.net> wrote in message news:m82dnR64gvdrq8TVnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d(a)posted.pcez > "Arny Krueger" wrote ... >> I only picked on those as examples because I know some >> stuff about them and how they came to be. The market for >> quality computer speakers did not magically appear when >> the first Monsoon was sold, and suddenly disappear when >> the last one was sold. > Certainly most of us here think there is a market for > decent "computer speakers". But I fear that we are not > representative of the general market and insufficient in > number to be interesting to any major vendor. I think that the 100,000s of larger Monsoon sets that were sold prove the existence of the market for good-sounding computer speakers. > Not to mention that the laws of physics are in direct > conflict with the desire to make speakers small enough to > position on a crowded desk (etc.) In this day and age, its mostly a matter of costs that keep size and bandpass from being traded off, effectively for computer speakers. >> I'm under the impression that some of the better Klipsch >> computer speakers are pretty good, for example. >> Cambridge Soundworks and Bose have offerings, the >> latter having poor price performance but respectable >> sound. > Do ANY of them adequately cover the hole between the "sub- > woofer" and the "satellite" speakers? IME, Yes. But my last listening tests were some time ago. I don't have specifics about the current state of the market. > That appears to be the main deficiency in any "computer speaker" set. You're right about that. This was one of the faults that the Monsoon competitive studies pointed out in many samples that they tested. But, a few people got it right.
From: gunnar on 21 Jun 2008 06:40
Short takes. 1 - the Yamaha MSP5 are nice speakers (I have a pair). Not the best money can buy but definitely useable (my other monitors comes in at more than 10 times the price and I do like them more). Do check if you can find them used -- generally half the price or less. 2 - When you connect them directly to your computer there will be two things to take care of: a) - the cables. You need to get a set that works on both ends (computer and speaker). Not very difficult and could probably be had at a largish store. b) - volume control. Each of the MSP5-s has its own volume control. I believe you would want to have one volume control for them both. This can be done in the computer, but I really like an external control instead. SM Audio Pro has a small box called nano patch that might be what you are looking for. Gunnar |