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From: DanKaye on 11 Oct 2005 02:31 On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:06:46 GMT, Cathy Stevenson <cats1921(a)invalidsonic.net> wrote: >In article <kqnek1t1j1lusbfasvao52r5ipanpoe3fn(a)4ax.com>, DanKaye ><dankaye(a)nowhere.info> wrote: > >> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:21:04 GMT, Cathy Stevenson >> <cats1921(a)invalidsonic.net> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >The Power On button is the rightmost key on the top row. It has the >> >"power on" symbol - a circle with a vertical diameter bar. >> > >> You are right about the location of the Power key, but mine has only a >> left facing triangle on it, no circle or bar. >> >> > >> >It sounds as if your power supply may be bad. >> >> >> I reset the Power Manager by taking out the batteries, then puttting >> them back in and holding down CTRL, OPTION, COMMAND and POWER. >> >> At first it didn't work, but then after leaving the computer sit >> overnight, it started again. I turned it off after transferring some >> files onto a disk, and unplugged it to move it, and now once again it >> won't start! >> >> This makes no sense to me. If it was the Power Supply it would not >> have worked at all, but it did work, until I shut it down. >> >> But now it won't start, again. >> >> >My Wallstreet wouldn't boot when the PRAM battery diedd. It booted >fine after replacement. The PRAM battery for the 540 costs only about >$10 (e.g., powerbookguy.com) - it may be worth a try. > >I assume you tried resetting the PMU again? > >Cathy Yes, Cathy, I did reset the Power Manager again, and it did start up again, then died again after half an hour or so. Then I did it yet again, transferred some more files onto floppy, and this time I shut it down before it had a chance to power itself off. I am hoping I can continue like this until I get all the files off it that I want. The PRAM battery is cheap then? But what about installing it? I heard you have to have a pro do it? I've heard it's very hard to take the Powerbook apart to install it and then get it back together again. Have you ever tried it?
From: GeeFive on 12 Oct 2005 13:31 In article <7vmmk1d66pq9l90esc5ci4a5f5a3s9v8vu(a)4ax.com>, DanKaye <dankaye(a)nowhere.info> wrote: > Yes, Cathy, I did reset the Power Manager again, and it did start up > again, then died again after half an hour or so. Then I did it yet > again, transferred some more files onto floppy, and this time I shut > it down before it had a chance to power itself off. I am hoping I can > continue like this until I get all the files off it that I want. Dan, I'm having my own (similar?) problems with my Wall Street (see my post below or elsewhere in this group). Perhaps an option for you would be to do what I did. I took out the hard drive and mounted it in a "carrier." Depending on the one you get, it should plug into a firewire or USB-2 port and you can then move your files to your HD or another drive. I moved applications to an OS-9.2.2 installation on another drive and run them in OSX's Classic environment. Unfortunately, I can't roubleshoot your notebook same as I can't do mine. My Mac's have been so trouble free since 1993 that I never learned about that kind of stuff. But the Wall Street had a 40 gig drive in it and it comes in handy in the little pocket-sized $60 carrier I bought for it. Hope that helps you with your file transfer. =-=-=-=-= below is my post from elesewhere =-=-=-=-= Note: I posted this in c.s.mac.hardwarepowerbook before noticing that people post there maybe once a month; then I posted it in c.s.mac.hardware with no luck; so I'm moving it over here if that's okay. My Wall Street (233) has taken a sudden turn for the worse. I was playing my fave card game and suddenly the screen went dark. The little light that blinks when it sleeps blinked about three times and that was the end of it. No effort to start/restart accomplished anything. Could this be caused by a dead battery (it's the original, probably 5-6 years old) even though the power block was running the 'puter? I don't want to buy another (over $100) battery on spec and have it not be the problem. Is there another little battery inside like my old desktops had (P200, P575) that could have caused this? BTW, I took the hard drive out of the Wall Street, installed it in a carrier, then ran it on a G5 - no problem there. So right now all I have to go on is either a battery or hardware malfunction other than the hard drive has occurred. Can someone give me some hints about how to tackle this problem? Thanks. GeeFive
From: Cathy Stevenson on 12 Oct 2005 16:32 In article <7vmmk1d66pq9l90esc5ci4a5f5a3s9v8vu(a)4ax.com>, DanKaye <dankaye(a)nowhere.info> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:06:46 GMT, Cathy Stevenson > <cats1921(a)invalidsonic.net> wrote: > > >In article <kqnek1t1j1lusbfasvao52r5ipanpoe3fn(a)4ax.com>, DanKaye > ><dankaye(a)nowhere.info> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:21:04 GMT, Cathy Stevenson > >> <cats1921(a)invalidsonic.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > > >> >The Power On button is the rightmost key on the top row. It has the > >> >"power on" symbol - a circle with a vertical diameter bar. > >> > > >> You are right about the location of the Power key, but mine has only a > >> left facing triangle on it, no circle or bar. > >> > >> > > >> >It sounds as if your power supply may be bad. > >> >> > >> I reset the Power Manager by taking out the batteries, then puttting > >> them back in and holding down CTRL, OPTION, COMMAND and POWER. > >> > >> At first it didn't work, but then after leaving the computer sit > >> overnight, it started again. I turned it off after transferring some > >> files onto a disk, and unplugged it to move it, and now once again it > >> won't start! > >> > >> This makes no sense to me. If it was the Power Supply it would not > >> have worked at all, but it did work, until I shut it down. > >> > >> But now it won't start, again. > >> > >> > >My Wallstreet wouldn't boot when the PRAM battery diedd. It booted > >fine after replacement. The PRAM battery for the 540 costs only about > >$10 (e.g., powerbookguy.com) - it may be worth a try. > > > >I assume you tried resetting the PMU again? > > > >Cathy > Yes, Cathy, I did reset the Power Manager again, and it did start up > again, then died again after half an hour or so. Then I did it yet > again, transferred some more files onto floppy, and this time I shut > it down before it had a chance to power itself off. I am hoping I can > continue like this until I get all the files off it that I want. > > The PRAM battery is cheap then? But what about installing it? I heard > you have to have a pro do it? I've heard it's very hard to take the > Powerbook apart to install it and then get it back together again. > Have you ever tried it? Yes, I had a 540C and it was very hard to change the battery. I stalled in my attempt and ended up asking a friend to do it for me. Maybe you can get the files you need in stop-and-start shifts and be done with it. Cathy -- "there's a dance or two in the old dame yet." - mehitabel C.Stevenson, M.D. cats1921(a)invalidsonic.net
From: DanKaye on 12 Oct 2005 17:42 On 12 Oct 2005 05:31:32 -0700, "Carl" <c_p_freire(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Wow, the Blackbird. I had a Blackbird back in the day--got it about 6 >months after it came out for four figures and sold it on eBay together >with an HP printer about 5 years later for very low three figures. >Such is life. > >Anyway, I've changed the Blackbird PRAM battery. Having recently >changed the power/sound card in my Pismo, I can say that getting at the >540's PRAM battery is a much less hairy operation (in both operations, >you have to disassemble the computer pretty much completely because of >how each one is constructed--FWIW, the PRAM batt on the 540 is located >to the right of the trackpad). .... Thanks. You gave me enough of a detailed description to scare me away from doing it myself. I'll either find someone to do it for a reasonable price or I'll throw the damn thing out! Actually before I throw it out, I'll take it apart just to see how hard it is to get to the PRAM battery and put it back together again. If I can do it, more power to me, if not, next stop: trash bin. Thanks for explaining.
From: DanKaye on 12 Oct 2005 17:49
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:31:33 -0700, GeeFive <geefive(a)geezopeezo.com> wrote: >Perhaps an option for you would be to do what I did. I took out the >hard drive and mounted it in a "carrier." Depending on the one you >get, it should plug into a firewire or USB-2 port and you can then move >your files to your HD or another drive. > >I moved applications to an OS-9.2.2 installation on another drive and >run them in OSX's Classic environment. > Problem is, I don't have another Mac, and don't want to buy one. Nothing against Macs, it's just that I am now used to PC and prefer to stay with pc (all the usual reasons). So I have nothing to transfer the files to except my PC. The good news is, after resetting the Power Manager several times, now it is dependably working for about half an hour each time I turn it on, then it powers itself off. I was able to get all the files off of it that I need, more or less, during that time, and now I am even able to read them on my pc, though they come through with weird line breaks and odd characters here and there, even though they are Rich Text Format. Now the issue is how do I recover files that I encrypted using Norton decrypter/encrypter (I forgot the name of it, but the icon is a little spy guy). I'm going to start a thread on this and see if anyone can help me break this encryption. I used a password that I cannot for the life of me remember. It's none of my usual ones. |