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From: Damir on 2 Apr 2008 15:18 On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:47:10 +1000, roberts(a)athlonx2.gville (Robert Swan) wrote: >I recently bought an HP-50g. Compared with my trusty 48sx, it's >dazzlingly fast, has a very clear display, and is full of features. >Sadly, also compared with the 48sx, the documentation is abysmal. > >One thing the SX had, neatly stashed in its soft case, was a complete >command summary, listing commands by name, along with their stack >effects. As long as you were familiar with the command, this was >really handy when programming. It was also helpful spotting less >familiar commands so you could get out the reference manual and get to >know them. > >For the 50g, with its >700 commands, this list would be even more >useful, even if it wouldn't fit in the case. Has anyone put together >such a list for the 50g as a PDF file or some such? > >Failing that, any suggestions on extracting the complete list of >command names from the calculator? Getting CAT's output in ASCII >would at least save me *some* typing, and would be less error prone >too. > >Have fun, > >Robert. http://www.hpcalc.org/search.php?query=hlp Damir
From: John H Meyers on 3 Apr 2008 02:49 On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:47:10 -0500, Robert Swan wrote: > I recently bought an HP-50g. Compared with my trusty 48sx, it's > dazzlingly fast, has a very clear display, and is full of features. > Sadly, also compared with the 48sx, the documentation is abysmal. > > One thing the SX had, neatly stashed in its soft case, was a complete > command summary, listing commands by name, along with their stack effects. The HP50G has only a few more commands than an HP49G, which came with a pocket-sized guide: http://www.hpcalc.org/search.php?query=49g+pocket+guide+hewlett But it wasn't perfect: http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=3027 Keep your 48SX guide (and any others for 48S[X]/G[X] series), because it's all still in the 50G; list-processing commands (48GX) and a CAS are mostly all that's new, command-wise, and the CAS commands actually have on-board HELP. [r->] [OFF]
From: username localhost on 3 Apr 2008 11:17 On Apr 1, 7:47 pm, robe...(a)athlonx2.gville (Robert Swan) wrote: > I recently bought an HP-50g. Compared with my trusty 48sx, it's > dazzlingly fast, has a very clear display, and is full of features. > Sadly, also compared with the 48sx, the documentation is abysmal. > > One thing the SX had, neatly stashed in its soft case, was a complete > command summary, listing commands by name, along with their stack > effects. As long as you were familiar with the command, this was > really handy when programming. It was also helpful spotting less > familiar commands so you could get out the reference manual and get to > know them. > > For the 50g, with its >700 commands, this list would be even more > useful, even if it wouldn't fit in the case. Has anyone put together > such a list for the 50g as a PDF file or some such? > > Failing that, any suggestions on extracting the complete list of > command names from the calculator? Getting CAT's output in ASCII > would at least save me *some* typing, and would be less error prone > too. As usual, John H Meyers is correct. However, I suspect you may still find the type of documented you requested useful. So as I promised here is a link to an 11 page PDF that contains virtually all the commands along with dtack diagrams for each. It also indicated button equivlents for commands that have them, as well as how to access the menu that contains them. http://username.localhost.googlepages.com/hp50gquickguide.pdf This is based on the spreadsheet by Veli-Pekka Nousiainen, although I removed information not useful for an hp50g quick guide, such as the information about what other calculators have the commands, or commands only available in those calculators, etc. I'm pretty sure this is more or less exactly what you were wanting, so please take a look. username(a)localhost
From: g on 3 Apr 2008 18:56 Thanks. An excellent "Quick Command Guide". I've seen the spreadsheet by Veli-Pekka Nousiainen. But I am confused by his (and your) columns entitled "Type" and "#a T #r" Would you define the meaning of these two columns?. GC username localhost wrote: > On Apr 1, 7:47?pm, robe...(a)athlonx2.gville (Robert Swan) wrote: > > I recently bought an HP-50g. ?Compared with my trusty 48sx, it's > > dazzlingly fast, has a very clear display, and is full of features. > > Sadly, also compared with the 48sx, the documentation is abysmal. > > > > One thing the SX had, neatly stashed in its soft case, was a complete > > command summary, listing commands by name, along with their stack > > effects. ?As long as you were familiar with the command, this was > > really handy when programming. ?It was also helpful spotting less > > familiar commands so you could get out the reference manual and get to > > know them. > > > > For the 50g, with its >700 commands, this list would be even more > > useful, even if it wouldn't fit in the case. ?Has anyone put together > > such a list for the 50g as a PDF file or some such? > > > > Failing that, any suggestions on extracting the complete list of > > command names from the calculator? ?Getting CAT's output in ASCII > > would at least save me *some* typing, and would be less error prone > > too. > > As usual, John H Meyers is correct. However, I suspect you may still > find the type of documented you requested useful. > So as I promised here is a link to an 11 page PDF that contains > virtually all the commands along with dtack diagrams for each. It also > indicated button equivlents for commands that have them, as well as > how to access the menu that contains them. > > http://username.localhost.googlepages.com/hp50gquickguide.pdf > > This is based on the spreadsheet by Veli-Pekka Nousiainen, although I > removed information not useful for an hp50g quick guide, such as the > information about what other calculators have the commands, or > commands only available in those calculators, etc. > > I'm pretty sure this is more or less exactly what you were wanting, so > please take a look. > > username(a)localhost
From: username localhost on 5 Apr 2008 13:53
On Apr 3, 6:56 pm, g <gcook...(a)cs.com> wrote: > Thanks. An excellent "Quick Command Guide". > I've seen the spreadsheet by Veli-Pekka Nousiainen. > But I am confused by his (and your) columns entitled "Type" and "#a T > #r" > Would you define the meaning of these two columns?. > GC > I'm not fully certain of the meaning myself. What is apparent is that the types column was reduandant, and so I should have excluded it from my version. I just forgot to do that. The second column seems to cryptically indicate the form the command would take in algebraic mode, but I'm not entirely clear it it either. |