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From: Xainin on 16 Jul 2008 02:35 My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to replace it. Summary of needs: - Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking - Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos looked good to me. - No clogging - I may not use it for weeks - No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo paper - Linux drivers with full capabilities - Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400 has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give pause. Suggestions? -- Young at Heart. Slightly Older in Other Places.
From: measekite on 16 Jul 2008 11:28 Canon IP3500 or Canon IP4500 Xainin wrote: > My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to > replace it. Summary of needs: > > - Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory > slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking > > - Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo > printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was > a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos > looked good to me. > > - No clogging - I may not use it for weeks > > - No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo > paper > That is a good choice. I do not use my Canon to heavily. I sometimes let it sit for a couple of weeks. I have never had a clog in 4 years. The IP4500 is similar to my IP4000. In your case the IP4500 would be faster than the IP3500 and would recommend that over it. As for paper I use both Canon Photo Paper Pro and mostly Costco Kirkland. The Costco paper I bought was a couple of years ago (I purchased a great deal) and that was made in Switzerland. It is just as good as the Canon. Surprisingly I bought some paper from Surething.com (glossy 5x7) and found that to be very good. The finnish was smooth. I also use Epson Heavyweight Matte and I like that as well. The IP4500 has more than you ask but the price is not to high and the ink should be under $12 a cart. > - Linux drivers with full capabilities > None come with Linux out of the box drivers but you should be able to download Cups drivers for the IP4500 and get all of the features. You can also buy TurboPrint who has full featured drivers for the IP4500 and works with CUPS. > - Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page > This should be around $100 when on sale or rebated. > ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to > have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; I do not think you will have a problem. You can also buy TurboPrint and that has drivers for all printers. But I think you will be OK using the CUPS drivers. It will then act like a Postscript printer and will also work with Gimp and Gutenprint. > the HP K5400 > has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give > pause. > > Suggestions? > Canon IP4500 should be your first consideration.
From: wtrplnet on 16 Jul 2008 12:18 "measekite" <inkystinky(a)oem.com> wrote in message news:1rofk.6792$vn7.2940(a)flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com... > Canon IP3500 or Canon IP4500 > > Xainin wrote: >> My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to >> replace it. Summary of needs: >> >> - Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory >> slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking >> >> - Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo >> printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was >> a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos >> looked good to me. >> >> - No clogging - I may not use it for weeks >> >> - No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo >> paper >> > > That is a good choice. I do not use my Canon to heavily. I sometimes let > it sit for a couple of weeks. I have never had a clog in 4 years. The > IP4500 is similar to my IP4000. In your case the IP4500 would be faster > than the IP3500 and would recommend that over it. > > As for paper I use both Canon Photo Paper Pro and mostly Costco Kirkland. > The Costco paper I bought was a couple of years ago (I purchased a great > deal) and that was made in Switzerland. It is just as good as the Canon. > Surprisingly I bought some paper from Surething.com (glossy 5x7) and found > that to be very good. The finnish was smooth. I also use Epson > Heavyweight Matte and I like that as well. > > The IP4500 has more than you ask but the price is not to high and the ink > should be under $12 a cart. >> - Linux drivers with full capabilities >> > > None come with Linux out of the box drivers but you should be able to > download Cups drivers for the IP4500 and get all of the features. You can > also buy TurboPrint who has full featured drivers for the IP4500 and works > with CUPS. >> - Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page >> > This should be around $100 when on sale or rebated. >> ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to >> have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; > I do not think you will have a problem. You can also buy TurboPrint and > that has drivers for all printers. But I think you will be OK using the > CUPS drivers. It will then act like a Postscript printer and will also > work with Gimp and Gutenprint. >> the HP K5400 >> has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give >> pause. >> >> Suggestions? >> > > Canon IP4500 should be your first consideration. I REALLY hate to sound as if I'm agreeing with measekite, but I'm very happy with my Canon ip4300. Not sure if there is Linux support available. I found a 'spare' ip4300 recently on Craigslist for $50 US, new, in the original box. And if you want to print CD/DVD with the US version it's very easy to find a CD tray on Ebay for about $15, then use documentation included with the tray to tell the printer that it's actually being used in Europe, voila! Prints CDs. Of course, there is no factory warranty for this second printer, but for $50 (less than the cost of a set of original carts) who cares? Just to tweak measekite, this: I got the "Redsetter" from Germany and it does work to reset the chips for refilling original carts or using non-OEM carts. "Oh! Your prints won't last 100 years!" Who cares, even if that's true. I'm not selling them, and I have all the original files, so I can print another whenever I like. Alan
From: Hendo on 17 Jul 2008 08:19 On Jul 16, 2:35 am, Xainin <63f2-o...(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote: > > ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to > have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400 > has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give > pause. I own both, but use them on XP. The Canon iP4500 will clog when sitting for several weeks at a time, but it is easy to repair through the drivers head cleaning feature. This printer has a special Deep Clean which you may have to use if it clogs really bad, I have only used this once and it uses alot of ink. Something must be wrong with Canon ink for the printer to need 2 types of cleaning. It prints very good pictures overall. Canon claims thier ink is fade resistant...only time will tell. For document printing the HP 5400 wins hands down. The print quality is better and more professional. This printer is much faster than the Canon. The cost to print is cheaper than the Canon using OEM inks. For photos it great...I actually use it more than the Canon. The printer never clogs even if I leave it off for a month...something I wouldn't try with the Canon. If I was to compare the 2, the HP 5400 is a better printer. There is a chip resetter for the Canon so soon I will be using aftermarket ink in this printer...and delegate it to a backup printer.
From: Bob Headrick on 17 Jul 2008 14:29
"Xainin" <63f2-oyik(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message news:j25r741mmputrj2thqlqu97v8if6la39qu(a)4ax.com... > My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to > replace it. I think the Deskjet 6940 would meet your needs well. It has similar cartridge capacity (in pages per cartridge) as the full capacity #45 and #78 cartridges, and is much faster printing than the 960. The print quality will be similar. See http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?landing=printer&storeName=storefronts&category=inkjet&catLevel=2&product_code=C8970A%23B1H For a printer only used occasionally I would avoid a printer with separate heads and ink supplies as the cleaning cycles (whether automatic or manual) would likely use more ink than you would be printing on paper. This would apply to either the Canon or K5400 products. Regards, Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging |