From: Xainin on
Xainin <63f2-oyik(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote:

>My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
>replace it. Summary of needs:
>
>- Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory
> slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking
>
>- Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo
> printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was
> a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos
> looked good to me.
>
>- No clogging - I may not use it for weeks
>
>- No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo
> paper
>
>- Linux drivers with full capabilities
>
>- Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page
>
>ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
>have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400
>has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
>pause.
>
>Suggestions?

Thanks to everyone who responded. Surprisingly, the printer
"fixed itself". Just before my original post I had replaced both
cartridges and done multiple cleaning cycles to no avail. After
leaving it off for a couple weeks I happened to try it, and it
worked fine, and has been working fine since.

Nonetheless, it's getting long in the tooth, so I want to know
what to buy next. Based on what Bob said perhaps I should stick
to printers with the printheads in the cartridge.

At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.

That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
printers?

--
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
From: measekite on


Xainin wrote:
> Xainin <63f2-oyik(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
>
>> My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
>> replace it. Summary of needs:
>>
>> - Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory
>> slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking
>>
>> - Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo
>> printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was
>> a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos
>> looked good to me.
>>
>> - No clogging - I may not use it for weeks
>>
>> - No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo
>> paper
>>
That is smart. I do the same with my HP990Cse.
>> - Linux drivers with full capabilities
>>
Most HPs have CUPS drivers.
>> - Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page
>>
>> ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
>> have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400
>> has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
>> pause.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>

I have a Canon IP4000. The Canon HP4500 is even better. If you wanted
to print photos I would recommend that over anything else. Linux
drivers are a pain but I think that there is one that works for the
IP4500. You could also buy TurboPrint and that should work.

I would call up HP customer service and ask them what the current
replacement is for the HP900 series printer ie the HP990. You may also
want to look at the OfficeJet if that line includes stand alone printers
as well.
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded. Surprisingly, the printer
> "fixed itself". Just before my original post I had replaced both
> cartridges and done multiple cleaning cycles to no avail. After
> leaving it off for a couple weeks I happened to try it, and it
> worked fine, and has been working fine since.
>
> Nonetheless, it's getting long in the tooth, so I want to know
> what to buy next. Based on what Bob said perhaps I should stick
> to printers with the printheads in the cartridge.
>
Basically yes. But I do not use my Canon HP a lot and have let it sit
for 2 to 3 weeks and never had a clog problem. Of course I only use
Canon ink.
> At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
> carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
> perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.
>

Like I said if you want to print photos the Canon IP4500 is the very best.
> That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
> uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
> normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
> printers?
>
The photo black is usually used when you print on matte paper and the
other black is when you print on glossy.
From: Bob Headrick on
"Xainin" <63f2-oyik(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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> At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
> carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
> perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.
>
> That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
> uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
> normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
> printers?

Yes, with the color and black cartridges installed the print quality on
either will be similar to your current Deskjet 960. You have the option of
using the color and photo cartridges for better photo quality, which may be
particularly visible in photos with sky or facial where the color cartridge
alone may have a more grainy appearance.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging


From: measekite on


Bob Headrick wrote:
> "Xainin" <63f2-oyik(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message
> news:vsqcb4dplbh5i4dbg1u5rc4mfdbeqn6ri0(a)4ax.com...
>
>> At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
>> carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
>> perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.
>>
>> That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
>> uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
>> normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
>> printers?
>
> Yes, with the color and black cartridges installed the print quality
> on either will be similar to your current Deskjet 960.
But the photos are crappy. My HP 990 which is great for text and has a
fantastic text mode produces lousy photos. My Canon IP4000 which
produces good text and lousy draft produces fantastic photos.

Bob is an HP employee who is now retired but his HP conditioning is not
retired.
> You have the option of using the color and photo cartridges for better
> photo quality, which may be particularly visible in photos with sky
> or facial where the color cartridge alone may have a more grainy
> appearance.
Switching is a nuisance.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>
>
From: Frank on
measekite wrote:

>
>
> Bob Headrick wrote:
>
>> "Xainin" <63f2-oyik(a)dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message
>> news:vsqcb4dplbh5i4dbg1u5rc4mfdbeqn6ri0(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>> At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
>>> carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
>>> perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.
>>>
>>> That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
>>> uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
>>> normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
>>> printers?
>>
>>
>> Yes, with the color and black cartridges installed the print quality
>> on either will be similar to your current Deskjet 960.
>
> But the photos are crappy.

They are? You know this because you have this printer?

My HP 990 which is great for text and has a
> fantastic text mode produces lousy photos. My Canon IP4000 which
> produces good text and lousy draft produces fantastic photos.
>
> Bob is an HP employee who is now retired but his HP conditioning is not
> retired.

So you're saying that his opinion is that of an expert?
Great!
>
>> You have the option of using the color and photo cartridges for better
>> photo quality, which may be particularly visible in photos with sky
>> or facial where the color cartridge alone may have a more grainy
>> appearance.
>
> Switching is a nuisance.

You mean like talking and walking at the same time is a nuisance for you?
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>
>>