From: SteveB on
The 45 takes black pigmented ink only and the 78 takes dye ink only. I'm UK
based, I used to get my 78 ink and 45 black pigmented ink from two separate
companies that have both closed down now. I believe there are lots of good
colour ink kits out there but you have to be careful that you are getting
real pigmented black ink as some companies still don't know the difference
and try to sell you black dye ink which will work but will be feint and
spidery in comparison with pigment ink on plain paper. The ink I used to
use must have been good though, 4yr old photos haven't faded at all.



"New" <newjunk(a)despammed.com> wrote in message
news:1116519891.260573.157170(a)z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Thank you, Steve.
>
> I understand that my printer model takes both pigment and dye based
> inks.
>
> Which ones of each do you recommend?
> I mean, which brand names of inks?
>
> Thank you,
> New
>
> SteveB wrote:
>> I used to refill these for a few years and filled a 78 recently for
> someone,
>> successfully I might add. I used to get many 45 refills out of a
> cartridge
>> (lost count) and as many refills with the 78 as you want but the
> resolution
>> seems to go off after 4 or 5 refills, so just plan on 3 for best
> quality. I
>> think there's plenty of good kits out there, it's the method that's
> most
>> important though. I found drilling 3 holes in the front about 1.3"
> from the
>> top and filling from there with long syringes towards the head was
> the best
>> method as there is no way to overfill as the holes act as overflows.
>> Overfilling seems to not be a good thing with 78s. Fill until ink
> emerges
>> at each hole then draw .5ml out and tape over the holes. Keep the
> head in
>> damp tissue throughout. Change to dry tissue once the initial
> dripping
>> slows. Once the ink has stopped dripping (5 to 20 mins) put the
> cartridge
>> in the printer and leave it unused for several hours. This is the
> most
>> important part, if you print too soon or run cleaning cycles before
> internal
>> pressures have equalised and before any microscopic air bubbles have
> had a
>> chance to rise out of harms way, then you will get problems. After
> the
>> several hour wait try a test print and run a cleaning cycle if
> necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>> "New" <newjunk(a)despammed.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115499314.021426.85790(a)g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I just bought a used "HP DeskJet 970Cse" and was wondering if
> anyone
>> > had some good experiences with refill kits. If so, can you please
> tell
>> > me which ones you like?
>> >
>> > Thanks, New
>> >
>


From: New on
Thanks for the clarification, Steve.

I also believe there are lots of good ink refill kits out there, but I
don't know which companies know the difference between dye ink and
pigment ink!

Is there an easy way figure this out, so I don't have to find out when
I see spider-legs on the page?

I thought I'd start up a collection of ink companies and just ask each
one. Maybe they'll talk to me.

Thank you!
New

SteveB wrote:
> The 45 takes black pigmented ink only and the 78 takes dye ink only. I'm UK
> based, I used to get my 78 ink and 45 black pigmented ink from two separate
> companies that have both closed down now. I believe there are lots of good
> colour ink kits out there but you have to be careful that you are getting
> real pigmented black ink as some companies still don't know the difference
> and try to sell you black dye ink which will work but will be feint and
> spidery in comparison with pigment ink on plain paper. The ink I used to
> use must have been good though, 4yr old photos haven't faded at all.
>
>
>
> "New" <newjunk(a)despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:1116519891.260573.157170(a)z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Thank you, Steve.
> >
> > I understand that my printer model takes both pigment and dye based
> > inks.
> >
> > Which ones of each do you recommend?
> > I mean, which brand names of inks?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > New
> >
> > SteveB wrote:
> >> I used to refill these for a few years and filled a 78 recently for
> > someone,
> >> successfully I might add. I used to get many 45 refills out of a
> > cartridge
> >> (lost count) and as many refills with the 78 as you want but the
> > resolution
> >> seems to go off after 4 or 5 refills, so just plan on 3 for best
> > quality. I
> >> think there's plenty of good kits out there, it's the method that's
> > most
> >> important though. I found drilling 3 holes in the front about 1.3"
> > from the
> >> top and filling from there with long syringes towards the head was
> > the best
> >> method as there is no way to overfill as the holes act as overflows.
> >> Overfilling seems to not be a good thing with 78s. Fill until ink
> > emerges
> >> at each hole then draw .5ml out and tape over the holes. Keep the
> > head in
> >> damp tissue throughout. Change to dry tissue once the initial
> > dripping
> >> slows. Once the ink has stopped dripping (5 to 20 mins) put the
> > cartridge
> >> in the printer and leave it unused for several hours. This is the
> > most
> >> important part, if you print too soon or run cleaning cycles before
> > internal
> >> pressures have equalised and before any microscopic air bubbles have
> > had a
> >> chance to rise out of harms way, then you will get problems. After
> > the
> >> several hour wait try a test print and run a cleaning cycle if
> > necessary.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "New" <newjunk(a)despammed.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1115499314.021426.85790(a)g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > I just bought a used "HP DeskJet 970Cse" and was wondering if
> > anyone
> >> > had some good experiences with refill kits. If so, can you please
> > tell
> >> > me which ones you like?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, New
> >> >
> >