From: roy_ccwchan on
Hi there,

I am really frustrated using HP35s for BASE-n calculation. I am never
seen such kind of long step for data entry.

For example. When in HEX mode I want to put ABCh on stack, I need to
type A,B,C & BASE key, and then scroll down for small h, otherwise I
got error. How come? Suppose anything input should be HEX data under
HEX mode but rather than default DEC data input whatever which mode
is.

I tried to write a program for shorten input step but no success. Does
any body have an idea how to overcome this silly input procedure.
I prefer using HP20S regarding BASE-n calculation because it is so
simple and direct. Other than this I have no complain.


Roy
From: Monte Dalrymple on

<roy_ccwchan(a)sinaman.com> wrote in message
news:c610e40a-241d-44be-a39f-326fe3f53875(a)a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi there,
>
> I am really frustrated using HP35s for BASE-n calculation. I am never
> seen such kind of long step for data entry.
>
> For example. When in HEX mode I want to put ABCh on stack, I need to
> type A,B,C & BASE key, and then scroll down for small h, otherwise I
> got error. How come? Suppose anything input should be HEX data under
> HEX mode but rather than default DEC data input whatever which mode
> is.
>
> I tried to write a program for shorten input step but no success. Does
> any body have an idea how to overcome this silly input procedure.
> I prefer using HP20S regarding BASE-n calculation because it is so
> simple and direct. Other than this I have no complain.
>
>
> Roy

Entering the "h" is blue shift-"1"-"6". Three keystrokes to do something
that should be completely automatic. A royal PITA, with no way
around it that anyone has discovered. I use hex regularly and if I had a
penny for every time I've swore under my breath the return on
investment for the 35s would be incredible.

Monte


From: cappy2112 on

A simple code update to allow data entry in all hex, decimal, or any
base mode would fix this easily.
But since there's no way to plug the darn thing into a computer, this
wont happen.

I guess if enough people complained about the problem, they might do a
recall and replace the units in the field with updated firmware.



On Dec 28, 8:18 am, "Monte Dalrymple" <mon...(a)systemyde.com> wrote:
> <roy_ccwc...(a)sinaman.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c610e40a-241d-44be-a39f-326fe3f53875(a)a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi there,
>
> > I am really frustrated using HP35s for BASE-n calculation. I am never
> > seen such kind of long step for data entry.
>
> > For example. When in HEX mode I want to put ABCh on stack, I need to
> > type A,B,C & BASE key, and then scroll down for small h, otherwise I
> > got error. How come? Suppose anything input should be HEX data under
> > HEX mode but rather than default DEC data input whatever which mode
> > is.
>
> > I tried to write a program for shorten input step but no success. Does
> > any body have an idea how to overcome this silly input procedure.
> > I prefer using HP20S regarding BASE-n calculation because it is so
> > simple and direct. Other than this I have no complain.
>
> > Roy
>
> Entering the "h" is blue shift-"1"-"6". Three keystrokes to do something
> that should be completely automatic. A royal PITA, with no way
> around it that anyone has discovered. I use hex regularly and if I had a
> penny for every time I've swore under my breath the return on
> investment for the 35s would be incredible.
>
> Monte

From: Joel Koltner on
The base-n data entry issue is just poor design... whereas the 35s does have
some pretty nasty bugs, as detailed here:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=735 . All
of those are, IMO, a good reason that HP ought to offer to recall & replace
the units in the field... yet, like most big companies today, HP doesn't even
publically acknowledge any of those bugs.

Oh well.



From: Harold A Climer on
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:28:20 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>The base-n data entry issue is just poor design... whereas the 35s does have
>some pretty nasty bugs, as detailed here:
>http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=735 . All
>of those are, IMO, a good reason that HP ought to offer to recall & replace
>the units in the field... yet, like most big companies today, HP doesn't even
>publically acknowledge any of those bugs.
>
>Oh well.
>
>
As said many times before, Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard are probably
rolling over in their graves.
I had two SX's and one GX replaced free, because of bugs, by HP in the
early 90's. The "Golden Age".
Of course I paid $350.00 a piece for them too.
I guess it is a bit harder for a $60.00 calculator.
I am talking a bit in the dark though,because I have no idea as to
what HP's margin was for the SX and GX and is for the 35s.
Harold A. Climer
Dept. Of Physics, Geology, and Astronomy
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
309 Grote Hall
423-425-4546
Harold-Climer(a)utc.edu