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From: Peter Junge on 23 Jan 2008 05:23 Hi Vishal, I'm also getting this mails frequently. However, this seems to be a bit off-topic at the OOo discussion mailing list. Or do you have any evidence, that the e-mail addresses have been 'mined' at OOo? For me, I do not care too much, because it seems to be an research project from an University. The questionnaire is just too long I think, takes too much time for me. --- Dr. Chou, Shih-Wei, How about becoming a member of the OOo education project, see: http://education.openoffice.org/ Maybe you get the information you desire more easily there. Best regards Peter Vishal Gaurav wrote: > Who are you? > How you get my email address? > > Thanks, > Vishal > vishalgaurav01(a)gmail.com > linuxvishal(a)yahoo.com > http://vishal.benetonfilms.com > > 2008/1/21 u9524730 <u9524730(a)ccms.nkfust.edu.tw>: > >> To whom it may concern, Thank you for your precious time in filling up >> this questionnaire. This questionnaire is designed to understand the >> factor(s) affect the software design of Open Source Software (OSS) in the >> OSS community. All the information you provide will only be used for this >> research and personal information will not be released. Thank you for you >> assistant. We'll provide US$20 for ten randomly picked participants for >> acknowledgement of you contribution. We'll be thankful if you could forward >> this mail to your OSS companions. Thank you again for your kind help. >> Department of Information Management;National Kaohsiung First University of >> Science of TechnologyKaohsiung, Taiwan, R.O.C., Advisor�GDr. Chou, >> Shih-WeiTel No�G(886-7)601-1000 ext.4114Students�GHe, >> Momg-Young;Chien,I-Feng;Lay, Horng-JyhE-mail�Gu9524730(a)ccms.nkfust.edu.twAbout Questionnaire: >> http://www.my3q.com/home2/183/u9524730/38228.phtml >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: "Twayne" on 23 Jan 2008 10:19 Vishal Gaurav <vishalgaurav01(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Who are you? > How you get my email address? > > Thanks, > Vishal > vishalgaurav01(a)gmail.com > linuxvishal(a)yahoo.com > http://vishal.benetonfilms.com > > 2008/1/21 u9524730 <u9524730(a)ccms.nkfust.edu.tw>: > >> To whom it may concern, Thank you for your precious time in filling >> up >> this questionnaire. This questionnaire is designed to understand the >> factor(s) affect the software design of Open Source Software (OSS) >> in the >> OSS community. All the information you provide will only be used for >> this >> research and personal information will not be released. Thank you >> for you >> assistant. We'll provide US$20 for ten randomly picked participants >> for >> acknowledgement of you contribution. We'll be thankful if you could >> forward >> this mail to your OSS companions. Thank you again for your kind help. >> Department of Information Management;National Kaohsiung First >> University of >> Science of TechnologyKaohsiung, Taiwan, R.O.C., Advisor�GDr. Chou, >> Shih-WeiTel No�G(886-7)601-1000 ext.4114Students�GHe, >> Momg-Young;Chien,I-Feng;Lay, >> Horng-JyhE-mail�Gu9524730(a)ccms.nkfust.edu.twAbout Questionnaire: >> http://www.my3q.com/home2/183/u9524730/38228.phtml Vishal, Since there is no way to know who this is and he seems completely unknown to the group, I would simply ignore him, or if you know how to parse headers, issue a complaint if there are forgeries in any of the headers. Newsgroups are favorite plaes for robots and crawlers to scrape e-mail addresses. Since we have to use our real e-mail addresses it makes it easy for bots and crawlers to find the adresses if they get past the defenses in place, whatever they are. If the headers and the given address can be believed , and I think they can, the mail came from Taiwan (.tw). It appears he may not realize he's technically spamming but I've already received two of his mails, identical to your, and if I get a third I will LART him with prejudice unless there are no forged headers, in which case he'll get one more chance to stop mailing me along with a form not to him about his spamming. From the X-Headers, it looks like they use Ironport's Spamcop.net for spam detection, and that's a very useful outfit. They are good at stopping it, but not prefect; sometimes things get by them. The spam score appears they just barely scraped past the filters with the spams to the group. My advice right now would be to simply ignore it and delete/mark it read, since there's no way of knowing what the guy is recording in addition to his survey. HTH Twayne -- --? Please reply to the newsgroup so everyone benefits. E-mails may not be responded to. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: "Vishal Gaurav" on 23 Jan 2008 14:15 ------=_Part_21365_2130402.1201115676156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Thanks, But open office list moderators have need to periodically monitor this mailing list, And keep out spammer from this discussion group. Thanks, Vishal vishalgaurav01(a)gmail.com linuxvishal(a)yahoo.com http://vishal.benetonfilms.com On Jan 23, 2008 8:56 PM, Rich <rich(a)hq.vsaa.lv> wrote: > On 2008.01.23. 17:17, Twayne wrote: > ... > > Vishal, > > > > Since there is no way to know who this is and he seems completely > > unknown to the group, I would simply ignore him, or if you know how to > > parse headers, issue a complaint if there are forgeries in any of the > > headers. > > Newsgroups are favorite plaes for robots and crawlers to scrape > > e-mail addresses. Since we have to use our real e-mail addresses it > > makes it easy for bots and crawlers to find the adresses if they get > > past the defenses in place, whatever they are. > > If the headers and the given address can be believed , and I think > > they can, the mail came from Taiwan (.tw). It appears he may not > > realize he's technically spamming but I've already received two of his > > mails, identical to your, and if I get a third I will LART him with > > prejudice unless there are no forged headers, in which case he'll get > > one more chance to stop mailing me along with a form not to him about > > his spamming. > > i have received 3 or 4 emails of this type to my personal email, now this. > both from formatting and contents they seem very suspicious, more like > an actual spam/scam. > quite annoying. > > > From the X-Headers, it looks like they use Ironport's Spamcop.net for > > spam detection, and that's a very useful outfit. They are good at > > stopping it, but not prefect; sometimes things get by them. The spam > > score appears they just barely scraped past the filters with the spams > > to the group. > > My advice right now would be to simply ignore it and delete/mark it > > read, since there's no way of knowing what the guy is recording in > > addition to his survey. > > > > HTH > > > > Twayne > -- > Rich > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org > > -- Vishal Gaurav ------=_Part_21365_2130402.1201115676156--
From: "Twayne" on 23 Jan 2008 14:17 Rich <rich(a)hq.vsaa.lv> wrote: > On 2008.01.23. 17:17, Twayne wrote: > ... >> Vishal, >> >> Since there is no way to know who this is and he seems completely >> unknown to the group, I would simply ignore him, or if you know how >> to parse headers, issue a complaint if there are forgeries in any of >> the headers. >> Newsgroups are favorite plaes for robots and crawlers to scrape >> e-mail addresses. Since we have to use our real e-mail addresses it >> makes it easy for bots and crawlers to find the adresses if they get >> past the defenses in place, whatever they are. >> If the headers and the given address can be believed , and I think >> they can, the mail came from Taiwan (.tw). It appears he may not >> realize he's technically spamming but I've already received two of >> his mails, identical to your, and if I get a third I will LART him >> with prejudice unless there are no forged headers, in which case >> he'll get one more chance to stop mailing me along with a form not >> to him about his spamming. > > i have received 3 or 4 emails of this type to my personal email, now > this. both from formatting and contents they seem very suspicious, > more like an actual spam/scam. > quite annoying. I agree. Such things, unsolicited, to a personal e-mail account definitely meet the definitions and criteria for spam. However, whether he's honest, a spammer and selling addresses/info or planning to deliver malware is hard to be certain. of. Because of the lack of forgery and it being so easy to pinpoint him, I suspect it's a newbie but for what purposes I don't know; maybe all he does want is a survey, but I won't bother to find out since it was spammed to me. When I suspect newbies I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt ONE TIME and once only; after that they suffer the same consequences as any other spammer. I'd say since you've received 4 at the same address, he's definitely after more than just a survey and past the point of deserving courtesy of any kind, OR has already sold the list to other people. If you'd like reporting addresses, let me know and I'll look them up. Do NOT send anything to HIM!! The idea is to get his account/s closed, not alert him that you read his spam and thus your address is "confirmed", meaning he can charge more for it. If you've had any kind of contact/response with him or clicked anything in his spam though, you can technically no longer call it spam and must suffer the consequences yourself until you've told him flat out to not e-mail you again. After that, anything he sent would be spam but I'd imagine he'd just whitewash your name off his list if you did that. And sell your address to other spammers. Sucks; but that's the way of the 'net these days. Twayne > >> From the X-Headers, it looks like they use Ironport's Spamcop.net >> for spam detection, and that's a very useful outfit. They are good >> at stopping it, but not prefect; sometimes things get by them. The >> spam score appears they just barely scraped past the filters with >> the spams to the group. >> My advice right now would be to simply ignore it and delete/mark it >> read, since there's no way of knowing what the guy is recording in >> addition to his survey. >> >> HTH >> >> Twayne --� Please reply to the newsgroup so everyone benefits. E-mails may not be responded to. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Paul on 23 Jan 2008 14:55
------=_Part_7464_28356581.1201118094809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > Hi, > Thanks, > But open office list moderators have need to periodically monitor this > mailing list, And keep out spammer from this discussion group. > > Thanks, > Vishal > vishalgaurav01(a)gmail.com > linuxvishal(a)yahoo.com > http://vishal.benetonfilms.com > > On Jan 23, 2008 8:56 PM, Rich <rich(a)hq.vsaa.lv> wrote: > Moderators, for discuss and users list, only spam protect the lists if it comes from unsubscribed users. Looking at the headers of the email at the beginning of this thread (haven't looked at any others from this person) the user is subscribed. Moderators are not responsible for banning/removing subscribed users. Checking the users email address verifies that the user and mailbox does exist. Also it appears it is an educational institution, therefore if someone was serious enough I'm sure a complaint could be put through those channels. I would however suggest that those not wishing to complete the survey, ignore the user. /paul > > > On 2008.01.23. 17:17, Twayne wrote: > > ... > > > Vishal, > > > > > > Since there is no way to know who this is and he seems completely > > > unknown to the group, I would simply ignore him, or if you know how to > > > parse headers, issue a complaint if there are forgeries in any of the > > > headers. > > > Newsgroups are favorite plaes for robots and crawlers to scrape > > > e-mail addresses. Since we have to use our real e-mail addresses it > > > makes it easy for bots and crawlers to find the adresses if they get > > > past the defenses in place, whatever they are. > > > If the headers and the given address can be believed , and I think > > > they can, the mail came from Taiwan (.tw). It appears he may not > > > realize he's technically spamming but I've already received two of his > > > mails, identical to your, and if I get a third I will LART him with > > > prejudice unless there are no forged headers, in which case he'll get > > > one more chance to stop mailing me along with a form not to him about > > > his spamming. > > > > i have received 3 or 4 emails of this type to my personal email, now > this. > > both from formatting and contents they seem very suspicious, more like > > an actual spam/scam. > > quite annoying. > > > > > From the X-Headers, it looks like they use Ironport's Spamcop.netfor > > > spam detection, and that's a very useful outfit. They are good at > > > stopping it, but not prefect; sometimes things get by them. The spam > > > score appears they just barely scraped past the filters with the spams > > > to the group. > > > My advice right now would be to simply ignore it and delete/mark it > > > read, since there's no way of knowing what the guy is recording in > > > addition to his survey. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Twayne > > -- > > Rich > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org > > > > > > > -- > Vishal Gaurav > -- For those that love Pandora, but don't live in the USA : http://globalpandora.com/ ------=_Part_7464_28356581.1201118094809-- |