From: HeyBub on
SkippyPB wrote:
>
> Those pesky Vikings! They are also credited with discovering North
> America long before Christopher Columbus landed here. In fact there
> is plenty of historical evidence that Eric the Red landed in Greenland
> in 982 AD. He was outlawed from Iceland and exiled to a great land to
> the north. Eric spent three years exploring the country where he and
> his men marked sites for their future farms. He called it Greenland
> and sailed with 25 ships to settle there. But in the 1400s, the
> settlers left because it became too cold. There is some evidence and
> speculation that they sailed south and discovered the rest of North
> America, but nothing concrete. However, there is some archeological
> evidence they may have gone to Newfoundland. Dr. Helge Ingstad and
> his wife Anne Stine Ingstad discovered the remains of an 11th-Century
> Norse community at L'anse Aux Meadows on the northern peninsula of
> Newfoundland. They were working from a 16th-Century Icelandic map
> showing part of North America.
>

That was during the last "global warming" period. Then it got cold again and
nobody left the house for a few hundred years.


From: Pete Dashwood on


"billious" <billious_1954(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:5sqqusF1a9fjsU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> [sn]
> it was left to Captain James Cook to circumnavigate and properly map
>> the three main islands of New Zealand over 100 years later
> [sn]
> Cheers!
>>
>> Pete.
>>
> So that'd be North Island, South Island and er, "West Island" no doubt? :)
>
>
West Island is sometimes called "Australia"... :-)

No, the third island is Stewart Island, located just South of the South
Island, across Foveaux Strait.

Actually. NZ adminsters and/or is responsible for, or has a "special
relationship" with, quite a large number of islands, many of which are just
rocks in the Southern Ocean (Disappointment Island, the Antipodes Islands,
http://www.fotw.us/flags/nz-.html#lesser etc.).

I have never been to Stewart Island, although it is on my list of places to
go... there is a permanent population of around 600 people, and I understand
the oysters make it worth the trip...:-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."



From: donald tees on
SkippyPB wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:04:27 +1300, "Pete Dashwood"
> <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>
>> "SkippyPB" <swiegand(a)nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:ggvfm3ho7codaf8llki5nnahmh7h5s8n46(a)4ax.com...
>>> This message is aimed at Pete Dashwood who I bet is celebrating and,
>>> if not, now has a reason to.
>>>
>>> On this day (I know it is tomorrow in New Zealand, but humor me) Dec.
>>> 18th, in 1642, the first European discovered New Zealand by accident
>>> like most great discoveries.
>> (I'm afraid you lose your bet; it is too early for serious celebrating...
>> :-) I have a house guest from Germany staying here for a few weeks and it is
>> her first visit to the Southern hemisphere so we have been relaxing and
>> enjoying local food, wine, beaches and hot pools, rather than celebrating.
>> However, serious clebrating will start from New Year...:-))
>>
>> Thanks Steve for the thought. We don't celebrate New Zealand Day (or
>> Waitangi Day) until the 6th February, and poor old Abel Tasman's achievement
>> goes largely unrecognised. (To be fair, he only contributed a line on the
>> map and it was left to Captain James Cook to circumnavigate and properly map
>> the three main islands of New Zealand over 100 years later.)
>>
>>
>>> Dutch seafarer and explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to
>>> reach New Zealand.
>> He may have been the first European RECORDED as reaching New Zealand. There
>> is some ambivalent evidence that Viking ships may have been here around the
>> 4th Century AD... It has to do with fossilized rat bones which could only
>> have been brought on ships from Europe and which have been carbon dated to
>> that time. Definitely not definitive but an interesting idea. If it's true
>> it would pre-date the arrival of Maori by 5 - 6 hundred years.
>>
>>
>
> Those pesky Vikings! They are also credited with discovering North
> America long before Christopher Columbus landed here. In fact there
> is plenty of historical evidence that Eric the Red landed in Greenland
> in 982 AD. He was outlawed from Iceland and exiled to a great land to
> the north. Eric spent three years exploring the country where he and
> his men marked sites for their future farms. He called it Greenland
> and sailed with 25 ships to settle there. But in the 1400s, the
> settlers left because it became too cold. There is some evidence and
> speculation that they sailed south and discovered the rest of North
> America, but nothing concrete. However, there is some archeological
> evidence they may have gone to Newfoundland. Dr. Helge Ingstad and
> his wife Anne Stine Ingstad discovered the remains of an 11th-Century
> Norse community at L'anse Aux Meadows on the northern peninsula of
> Newfoundland. They were working from a 16th-Century Icelandic map
> showing part of North America.
>
Newfoundland is another island that was eventually mapped by James Cook.
Now *there* was a fellow that really got around.

Donald