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From: Lars on 17 Apr 2008 14:55
Previously, on Usenet Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM(a)neo.rr.com> wrote:

>Believe me, there is good reason to fix it. People routinely pay well
>over a hundred dollars (sometimes over $200) on E-Bay for laptops
>significantly older than that one, as long as they are complete and working.

I agree. The T23 is a nice laptop. Better than most of the new cheapo
ones that are pushed so hard these days.

Lars
Stockholm
From: haligonab on 18 Apr 2008 21:23
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:46:47 -0400, "G.G.Willikers" <noone(a)athome.com>
wrote:

>haligonab wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Apologies for my ignorance. I've been building my own desktops for 10
>> years, but I've been told that laptops are different beasts.
>>
>> I just inherited a 5-year-old Toshiba A15-S127 from a friend. It
>> appears that the hard drive (original Toshiba) has given up the ghost.
>> When we booted it up, it ran a full scandisk (to my friend's surprise)
>> and corrected all errors and ran flawlessly for 3 hours. When we
>> rebooted it couldn't access the hard drive. He said his son had
>> dropped it more than once. I assume that the HD has been damaged, as
>> it displayed new errors when scandisk ran again. And again. Then I got
>> the "a disk read error has occurred" message over and over. Now all I
>> get is the Toshiba splash screen and a blinking cursor followed by a
>> blank screen. Hmm... now the "a disk read error has occurred" message
>> is back.
>>
>> BTW, I tried booting from an XP install disk. I got it to boot once
>> but it crashed during the system scan. Now it won't boot at all.
>> That's got me wondering if the IDE connector on the board could be
>> damaged? I can hear both the HDD and combo drives spin up.
>>
>> I'd rather not throw money at this if it seems to be a mobo problem,
>> but I wouldn't mind investing in a new hard drive. Any thoughts you
>> folks might offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>> Steve
>
>Does it boot to BIOS? Does it display any problems while in BIOS?
>Does BIOS detect the CD ROM everytime you boot?
>Reseat memory. reseat the CD rom. If it took a fall the CDrom, while not
>exactly fragile, could be damaged.
>
>This could help your project along:
>
>http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/ToshibaA15/SatelliteA15_laptop_disassembly_1.htm


Hi GG,

My main problem is ignorance of laptops in general, but I'm learning.
I'm used to the desktop boot screen and hitting the delete key to
access BIOS. I'm not seeing anything familiar in this regard. A friend
suggested trying the function keys. F2 allowed me to select the boot
device from the Toshiba splash screen. I can now boot to my XP install
disk without fail, leading me to be more confident that this is just a
HD failure. I ordered a WD 120gb IDE drive from Newegg last night.
With any luck that will be all I need other than maxing the RAM and
adding wireless LAN.

BTW, thanks much for the disassembly link, though I dearly hope I
won't need it. That's a whole lot more work than I care to get into
right now.

Thanks to all you folks for your thoughts and suggestions. I think I
got the nudges I needed to start moving forward.

Steve
From: G.G.Willikers on 19 Apr 2008 03:04
haligonab wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:46:47 -0400, "G.G.Willikers" <noone(a)athome.com>
> wrote:
>
>> haligonab wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Apologies for my ignorance. I've been building my own desktops for 10
>>> years, but I've been told that laptops are different beasts.
>>>
>>> I just inherited a 5-year-old Toshiba A15-S127 from a friend. It
>>> appears that the hard drive (original Toshiba) has given up the ghost.
>>> When we booted it up, it ran a full scandisk (to my friend's surprise)
>>> and corrected all errors and ran flawlessly for 3 hours. When we
>>> rebooted it couldn't access the hard drive. He said his son had
>>> dropped it more than once. I assume that the HD has been damaged, as
>>> it displayed new errors when scandisk ran again. And again. Then I got
>>> the "a disk read error has occurred" message over and over. Now all I
>>> get is the Toshiba splash screen and a blinking cursor followed by a
>>> blank screen. Hmm... now the "a disk read error has occurred" message
>>> is back.
>>>
>>> BTW, I tried booting from an XP install disk. I got it to boot once
>>> but it crashed during the system scan. Now it won't boot at all.
>>> That's got me wondering if the IDE connector on the board could be
>>> damaged? I can hear both the HDD and combo drives spin up.
>>>
>>> I'd rather not throw money at this if it seems to be a mobo problem,
>>> but I wouldn't mind investing in a new hard drive. Any thoughts you
>>> folks might offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Steve
>> Does it boot to BIOS? Does it display any problems while in BIOS?
>> Does BIOS detect the CD ROM everytime you boot?
>> Reseat memory. reseat the CD rom. If it took a fall the CDrom, while not
>> exactly fragile, could be damaged.
>>
>> This could help your project along:
>>
>> http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/ToshibaA15/SatelliteA15_laptop_disassembly_1.htm
>
>
> Hi GG,
>
> My main problem is ignorance of laptops in general, but I'm learning.
> I'm used to the desktop boot screen and hitting the delete key to
> access BIOS. I'm not seeing anything familiar in this regard. A friend
> suggested trying the function keys. F2 allowed me to select the boot
> device from the Toshiba splash screen. I can now boot to my XP install
> disk without fail, leading me to be more confident that this is just a
> HD failure. I ordered a WD 120gb IDE drive from Newegg last night.
> With any luck that will be all I need other than maxing the RAM and
> adding wireless LAN.
>
> BTW, thanks much for the disassembly link, though I dearly hope I
> won't need it. That's a whole lot more work than I care to get into
> right now.
>
> Thanks to all you folks for your thoughts and suggestions. I think I
> got the nudges I needed to start moving forward.
>
> Steve

I would definitely split that 120GB up. With a drive that size I would
also set the MY Documents folder on to a separate partition. That way if
your OS has a some catastrophe, you still have all your lovely pictures
and such.
From: haligonab on 20 Apr 2008 15:23
Behringer ADA8000On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:04:43 -0400, "G.G.Willikers"
<noone(a)athome.com> wrote:

>haligonab wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:46:47 -0400, "G.G.Willikers" <noone(a)athome.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> haligonab wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for my ignorance. I've been building my own desktops for 10
>>>> years, but I've been told that laptops are different beasts.
>>>>
>>>> I just inherited a 5-year-old Toshiba A15-S127 from a friend. It
>>>> appears that the hard drive (original Toshiba) has given up the ghost.
>>>> When we booted it up, it ran a full scandisk (to my friend's surprise)
>>>> and corrected all errors and ran flawlessly for 3 hours. When we
>>>> rebooted it couldn't access the hard drive. He said his son had
>>>> dropped it more than once. I assume that the HD has been damaged, as
>>>> it displayed new errors when scandisk ran again. And again. Then I got
>>>> the "a disk read error has occurred" message over and over. Now all I
>>>> get is the Toshiba splash screen and a blinking cursor followed by a
>>>> blank screen. Hmm... now the "a disk read error has occurred" message
>>>> is back.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I tried booting from an XP install disk. I got it to boot once
>>>> but it crashed during the system scan. Now it won't boot at all.
>>>> That's got me wondering if the IDE connector on the board could be
>>>> damaged? I can hear both the HDD and combo drives spin up.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather not throw money at this if it seems to be a mobo problem,
>>>> but I wouldn't mind investing in a new hard drive. Any thoughts you
>>>> folks might offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>> Does it boot to BIOS? Does it display any problems while in BIOS?
>>> Does BIOS detect the CD ROM everytime you boot?
>>> Reseat memory. reseat the CD rom. If it took a fall the CDrom, while not
>>> exactly fragile, could be damaged.
>>>
>>> This could help your project along:
>>>
>>> http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/ToshibaA15/SatelliteA15_laptop_disassembly_1.htm
>>
>>
>> Hi GG,
>>
>> My main problem is ignorance of laptops in general, but I'm learning.
>> I'm used to the desktop boot screen and hitting the delete key to
>> access BIOS. I'm not seeing anything familiar in this regard. A friend
>> suggested trying the function keys. F2 allowed me to select the boot
>> device from the Toshiba splash screen. I can now boot to my XP install
>> disk without fail, leading me to be more confident that this is just a
>> HD failure. I ordered a WD 120gb IDE drive from Newegg last night.
>> With any luck that will be all I need other than maxing the RAM and
>> adding wireless LAN.
>>
>> BTW, thanks much for the disassembly link, though I dearly hope I
>> won't need it. That's a whole lot more work than I care to get into
>> right now.
>>
>> Thanks to all you folks for your thoughts and suggestions. I think I
>> got the nudges I needed to start moving forward.
>>
>> Steve
>
>I would definitely split that 120GB up. With a drive that size I would
>also set the MY Documents folder on to a separate partition. That way if
>your OS has a some catastrophe, you still have all your lovely pictures
>and such.


Been doing that for years, but it's good that you mentioned it for
others who might not have thought of it. Saved my bacon on more than
one occasion. Plus I also back-up to an external USB drive. Redundency
is your friend. Thanks again!

From: Lars on 22 Apr 2008 04:23
Previously, on Usenet haligonab <stevieb(a)SPAMNOTiglou.com> wrote:

>>I would definitely split that 120GB up. With a drive that size I would
>>also set the MY Documents folder on to a separate partition.
>
>Been doing that for years, but it's good that you mentioned it for
>others who might not have thought of it.

Me too. Not you really need to know that. I just want to bring up why
it is not standard procedure to split a HD on a new brand desktop.

A friend needs a new computer to replace her 8 year old. So I adviced
her to order a Dell. It comes with Vista preinstalled. 300 GB HD, all
in one partition.

On my suggestion she requested that the drive be split 100/400, but no
go! The Dell guy sighs and smacks his tongue and probably rolls his
eyes, and eventually agrees that maybe she can have it split in the
middle. Or, he says, "she can split it herself".

That is asking a lot from a sweet girl, who is a fast and accurate
typist, very good with Paint Shop Pro etc, but not a Dos person or at
all a computer nut, like guys here. She points to the computer chassi
and says "Hard drive, split it in two, how is that possible?"

Lars
Stockholm
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