From: Brian V on
Inside my computer tower is one hard-drive. But I have two in my computer. It
is like the drive is seperated into a C: and D: drive. Why is this? Can I
rejoin them? If they were split, does it take away from the amount of space
there is there (say it's 400gB would this situation make it 350Gb one has
access to. The other 50Gb being a buffer of some kind?)?
From: Bill R on
"Brian V" <BrianV(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Inside my computer tower is one hard-drive. But I have two in my computer.
> It
> is like the drive is seperated into a C: and D: drive. Why is this? Can I
> rejoin them? If they were split, does it take away from the amount of
> space
> there is there (say it's 400gB would this situation make it 350Gb one has
> access to. The other 50Gb being a buffer of some kind?)?

Your hard disk has been partioned. That is it has been formatted into two
parts which are seen as separate drives. It is possible to re-format into
one partition. Either copy off ALL your data and reformat and re-install
Windows and all your software - you would, then have to reconfigure your
software. It is also possible to re-partition using software like Partition
Magic which claims to re-partition without the need to reformat - but I
can't comment on its success..

Overall the best advice is to do nothing - unless it is actually causing a
problem!

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway


From: DL on
And if you only have a recovery cd / partion then likely your PC would be
restored to the same state

Partition Magic or Acronis Disk Director can combine partitions on the fly -
I've used both

"Bill R" <bill(a)compsols.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Brian V" <BrianV(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4DB2E4AA-D419-4C6A-9B7E-96534C1BF82C(a)microsoft.com...
>> Inside my computer tower is one hard-drive. But I have two in my
>> computer. It
>> is like the drive is seperated into a C: and D: drive. Why is this? Can I
>> rejoin them? If they were split, does it take away from the amount of
>> space
>> there is there (say it's 400gB would this situation make it 350Gb one has
>> access to. The other 50Gb being a buffer of some kind?)?
>
> Your hard disk has been partioned. That is it has been formatted into two
> parts which are seen as separate drives. It is possible to re-format into
> one partition. Either copy off ALL your data and reformat and re-install
> Windows and all your software - you would, then have to reconfigure your
> software. It is also possible to re-partition using software like
> Partition Magic which claims to re-partition without the need to
> reformat - but I can't comment on its success..
>
> Overall the best advice is to do nothing - unless it is actually causing a
> problem!
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
>


From: Paul on
Brian V wrote:
> Inside my computer tower is one hard-drive. But I have two in my computer. It
> is like the drive is seperated into a C: and D: drive. Why is this? Can I
> rejoin them? If they were split, does it take away from the amount of space
> there is there (say it's 400gB would this situation make it 350Gb one has
> access to. The other 50Gb being a buffer of some kind?)?

If this is a pre-built computer, with a recovery partition on it, don't
touch it until you understand a little more about the setup. Some people
get all excited by the opportunity to expand C: and wipe out the only
copy of Windows provided with their computer. There may be a hidden
partition, with your recovery software in it. Check the computer instruction
manual, for the procedure that covers burning a "recovery CD" or
"recovery DVD". If you prepare your recovery media in advance, you'll
be prepared for the day that the hard drive dies on you.

This tool will display the four primary partition entries on a hard drive.
A hard drive can have more than four partitions. One of the partition
entries can have a special entry that indicates more logical partitions
exist. This tool doesn't show any logical partitions. I use only
primary ones on my machine (more convenient).

PTEDIT32 for Windows
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/PTEDIT32.zip

PTEDIT32 screenshot
http://www.vistax64.com/attachments/vista-installation-setup/7308d1224108918-hidden-partiton-recovery-dell-xps-420-dell-tbl.gif

You can see in the sample screen shot, there are three partitions on the hard
drive being displayed. Type "07" or "0C" might be considered "normal"
partitions. The ones marked "DE" and "DB" are different. "DE" is something
that Dell invented. Each manufacturer can hide different things in the partition
table, so it is a good idea to do your research first, so you don't erase something
you'll want later. At least one computer manufacturer uses an HPA (Host
Protected Area), which you can't even see in that display.

If you were building your own computer, you wouldn't do anything nearly
so complicated.

There is a table of partition types here, to help you decode them. Using
a single byte would seem to have been a mistake.

http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html

Paul
From: Daave on
Brian V wrote:
> Inside my computer tower is one hard-drive. But I have two in my
> computer. It is like the drive is seperated into a C: and D: drive.
> Why is this? Can I rejoin them? If they were split, does it take away
> from the amount of space there is there (say it's 400gB would this
> situation make it 350Gb one has access to. The other 50Gb being a
> buffer of some kind?)?

I will assume a few things, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

1. You have a PC that contains one hard drive and when you open My
Computer, you see two "drives" (these are actually partitions) listed,
namely C: and D:.

Some PC manufacturers (Sony, for instance) pre-configure the hard drives
so there are two partitions. C: is meant for the operating system and
all it settings and updates and also for all your installed programs,
including all their settings. D: is meant for all your data: your word
processing doucments, spreadsheets, music files like mp3s, videos, etc.
The PC manufacturer could have just as easily included only one giant
partition, which would contain *everything*.

Why do certain manufacturers do this? Perhaps there is a restore program
that will work quicker if the system partition isn't too large.

You can only rejoin them by using a third-party disk partitioning
program like EASEUS or Partition Magic. But you might decide you like
the default layout; there's nothing wrong with it and there is some
logic behind it. That is, you might be satisfied leaving well enough
alone.

In addition to these two visible partitions, it's possible you have
other *hidden* partitions. They can be seen by using the built-in
Windows program Disk Management. Some hidden partitions are relatively
small and contain diagnostics. Others are fairly large and contain an
image that cean be used to restore the PC to its original condition.