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From: Miguel Mayol Tur on 13 May 2010 16:11 The easiest way es to save a converted document .doc or .xls that you like as template, name it and use it as template instead of the default template. - you can delete what is inside - total or patially - to let it as a blank one. El 13/05/2010 4:33, Frank S. escribi�: > As I recover from having to replace my harddrive I am using OpenOffice > instead of the MS Office I was familiar with. > So far it works adequately with my existing WORD documents, but I'm at > my wit's end trying to create _new_ documents which should be a simple > process. > For example, what used to be a simple task of copying text somewhere > and then pasting into a new document does not yield something that has > the original appearance. It creates a weird "table" with unexpected > formating, margins, and borders with no apparent tools to correct any > of it. I've done trial and error with various commands and just > increased my frustration. > Referring to the various "support" or "help" sites or forums just > added to the nightmare as they seem unable to deal with the simplest > item without bringing in all sorts of complicated options. > Maybe I'm missing some basic key to understanding the Writer or text > portion of OO? It works great with my existing Excel spreadsheets, > but I dread when I need to create _new_ ones...will it be as > mysterious as the simple creation of a document seems to be? > Can anyone help make simple tasks simple? > Frank S. >
From: "Joshua Lee" on 13 May 2010 16:14 You'll also find Youtube is a great source for video tutorials for almost any software. I am sure there are plenty of How-To-Guides for beginners, even in OpenOffice. ________________________________ Joshua R. Lee Senior Software Engineer Global Telecom & Technology 8484 Westpark Drive, Suite 720 McLean, VA 22102 USA Office +1 (703) 442-5500 ext 528 Direct +1 (703) 442-5528 Cell +1 (302) 824-6858 Fax +1 (703) 442-5595 Joshua.Lee(a)GT-T.net The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is confidential, is intended only for the use of the individual named above, and includes information which is or may be legally privileged. Any review, use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution of the information in this transmittal other than by the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify me by e-mail immediately and delete the original message, any and all attachments, and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. ________________________________ From: Frank S. [mailto:nonedare(a)insightbb.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:34 PM To: discuss(a)openoffice.org Subject: [discuss] Help! As I recover from having to replace my harddrive I am using OpenOffice instead of the MS Office I was familiar with. So far it works adequately with my existing WORD documents, but I'm at my wit's end trying to create new documents which should be a simple process. For example, what used to be a simple task of copying text somewhere and then pasting into a new document does not yield something that has the original appearance. It creates a weird "table" with unexpected formating, margins, and borders with no apparent tools to correct any of it. I've done trial and error with various commands and just increased my frustration. Referring to the various "support" or "help" sites or forums just added to the nightmare as they seem unable to deal with the simplest item without bringing in all sorts of complicated options. Maybe I'm missing some basic key to understanding the Writer or text portion of OO? It works great with my existing Excel spreadsheets, but I dread when I need to create new ones...will it be as mysterious as the simple creation of a document seems to be? Can anyone help make simple tasks simple? Frank S.
From: Barbara Duprey on 13 May 2010 17:00 Frank S. wrote: > As I recover from having to replace my harddrive I am using OpenOffice > instead of the MS Office I was familiar with. Sorry, I know that crash hurt! But at least you didn't have to buy MS Office (again). > > So far it works adequately with my existing WORD documents, but I'm at > my wit's end trying to create _new_ documents which should be a simple > process. > > For example, what used to be a simple task of copying text somewhere > and then pasting into a new document does not yield something that has > the original appearance. It creates a weird "table" with unexpected > formating, margins, and borders with no apparent tools to correct any > of it. I've done trial and error with various commands and just > increased my frustration. OOo has quite a few different forms of paste, and what you probably needif you're getting into this type of situation is some variety of "Paste Special" to keep the material from being treated as a graphic. This depends on the source; generally copying into the same OOo application works normally, but crossing applications or bringing in a clipboard from other sources often needs the paste special. > > Referring to the various "support" or "help" sites or forums just > added to the nightmare as they seem unable to deal with the simplest > item without bringing in all sorts of complicated options. > > Maybe I'm missing some basic key to understanding the Writer or text > portion of OO? It works great with my existing Excel spreadsheets, > but I dread when I need to create _new_ ones...will it be as > mysterious as the simple creation of a document seems to be? The File > New operation lets you start a new document of any of the supported types, as does the "splash page" when you start OOo. If you are creating a new document that is substantially similar to an existing one, the best way is generally to open the existing document and do a Save As under a new name. That keeps all the formatting and content, and you can edit it as needed. You can also create a "template" that you can use whenever you want to create a new document, where the template stores all kinds of settings and styles so you need not recreate them, without having content other than "boilerplate" material. The File > New operation is how you get at these, too. The most basic difference that people tend to notice is that OOo is very much based on styles (including page styles, a quite different concept from the way MS Office formats pages). You may find the following references helpful: documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0600MG-MigrationGuide.pdf (this seems to be for OOo version 2, but it should be pretty close) wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides > > Can anyone help make simple tasks simple? > > Frank S. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Miguel Mayol Tur on 16 May 2010 11:26 If you cut and paste a table, it will be a table, then you can cut and paste the words inside. But if you want templates as your old .doc, as easy to open it erase the words you do not want in the template and save as template. Put this templates in your desktop or at any directory, and then you will have the same template you used with MS word. As wel, OO has a template directory where you can add this new templates for accesing them from the menu. El 13/05/2010 22:14, Joshua Lee escribi�: > You'll also find Youtube is a great source for video tutorials for > almost any software. I am sure there are plenty of How-To-Guides for > beginners, even in OpenOffice. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Joshua R. Lee > > Senior Software Engineer > Global Telecom& Technology > 8484 Westpark Drive, Suite 720 > McLean, VA 22102 USA > > Office +1 (703) 442-5500 ext 528 > Direct +1 (703) 442-5528 > > Cell +1 (302) 824-6858 > Fax +1 (703) 442-5595 > > Joshua.Lee(a)GT-T.net > > > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the individual named > above, and includes information which is or may be legally privileged. > Any review, use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution of > the information in this transmittal other than by the intended recipient > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, > please notify me by e-mail immediately and delete the original message, > any and all attachments, and all copies from all locations in your > computer systems. > > ________________________________ > > From: Frank S. [mailto:nonedare(a)insightbb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:34 PM > To: discuss(a)openoffice.org > Subject: [discuss] Help! > > > > As I recover from having to replace my harddrive I am using OpenOffice > instead of the MS Office I was familiar with. > > > > So far it works adequately with my existing WORD documents, but I'm at > my wit's end trying to create new documents which should be a simple > process. > > > > For example, what used to be a simple task of copying text somewhere and > then pasting into a new document does not yield something that has the > original appearance. It creates a weird "table" with unexpected > formating, margins, and borders with no apparent tools to correct any of > it. I've done trial and error with various commands and just increased > my frustration. > > > > Referring to the various "support" or "help" sites or forums just added > to the nightmare as they seem unable to deal with the simplest item > without bringing in all sorts of complicated options. > > > > Maybe I'm missing some basic key to understanding the Writer or text > portion of OO? It works great with my existing Excel spreadsheets, but > I dread when I need to create new ones...will it be as mysterious as the > simple creation of a document seems to be? > > > > Can anyone help make simple tasks simple? > > > > Frank S. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Michael Adams on 14 May 2010 05:04
On Thursday 13 May 2010 14:33, Frank S. wrote: > For example, what used to be a simple task of copying text somewhere and > then pasting into a new document does not yield something that has the > original appearance. It creates a weird "table" with unexpected formating, > margins, and borders with no apparent tools to correct any of it. I've > done trial and error with various commands and just increased my > frustration. This is most frequently seen copying from the Internet. (X)HTML uses div's (a type of box) as a container. These are different from tables as they are all rectangular. OO.o seems to re-interpret rightly or wrongly div's into sections, not tables. In HTML div's can form pseudo columns, in a writer document they cannot. The upshot is that one div is always shown above the next. Alternative Internet practise has been to divide a webpage up with borderless tables to emulate columns. These get imported AFAIK into OO.o as tables. Some websites use a combination of tables and divs to achieve layout. How would you write a program to handle all three options. The simplest solution is to use Paste Special from the Edit menu and paste the content as "unformatted text", then apply your own formatting as required. One other option i have used is to copy the content out of a section then delete the section and paste the unencumbered text back into the document. This is fine if there are not too many sections. HTH -- Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org |