Hidding a program from Windows toolbar
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From: glenn on 27 May 2008 17:29 "Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote in message news:hvio34t0r7fejpr6u3sie168ve0bomvk62(a)4ax.com... > Running as a widget assumes the widget bar is going to be visible. I'm > not the only one > who hides it permanently. You are making assumptions about how others > work, and that > means that if you put something in the widget bar, people like me who > don't use it will > simply ignore your product, no matter what it does. If it is always on > top, it has to be > small and unobtrusive, easily moved, etc. I have trouble imagining any > application so > important that there is no "close" option on it. > > If I can close it with the task manager, then if I want to close it, I'm > going to be > annoyed that I have to bring up the task manager to do so. After a while, > I will hunt > down its startup mechanism and disable it. I've done this several times. > > Now, if I can only permanently disable the hotkeys that bring up voice > recognition and the > language bar, I'd be even happier. > I figured out how to do that one time, and promptly forgot how I did it. Oops! > Don't presume your judgment about the value of your program trumps the end > user. That's a > good way to annoy the end user. > joe > Just reading about his project annoys be already. The last time I saw those particular behavior traits in a program, it was a pop up window advertising anti-spyware. It refused to be deleted, moved, resized, etc, and insisted on directing the user to some lame website with the sole purpose of selling the user a program to rid their PC of the stupid little program for $39.99. Glenn Smith PC Based Automation CodeMech Systems (at yahoo.com)
From: Joseph M. Newcomer on 27 May 2008 19:56 Any program that exhibits the design traits suggested comes under the heading "malware", no matter who does it or for what reason. joe On Tue, 27 May 2008 14:29:31 -0700, "glenn" <gs555(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote in message >news:hvio34t0r7fejpr6u3sie168ve0bomvk62(a)4ax.com... >> Running as a widget assumes the widget bar is going to be visible. I'm >> not the only one >> who hides it permanently. You are making assumptions about how others >> work, and that >> means that if you put something in the widget bar, people like me who >> don't use it will >> simply ignore your product, no matter what it does. If it is always on >> top, it has to be >> small and unobtrusive, easily moved, etc. I have trouble imagining any >> application so >> important that there is no "close" option on it. >> >> If I can close it with the task manager, then if I want to close it, I'm >> going to be >> annoyed that I have to bring up the task manager to do so. After a while, >> I will hunt >> down its startup mechanism and disable it. I've done this several times. >> >> Now, if I can only permanently disable the hotkeys that bring up voice >> recognition and the >> language bar, I'd be even happier. >> > >I figured out how to do that one time, and promptly forgot how I did it. >Oops! > >> Don't presume your judgment about the value of your program trumps the end >> user. That's a >> good way to annoy the end user. >> joe >> > > >Just reading about his project annoys be already. The last time I saw those >particular behavior >traits in a program, it was a pop up window advertising anti-spyware. It >refused to be deleted, >moved, resized, etc, and insisted on directing the user to some lame website >with the sole purpose >of selling the user a program to rid their PC of the stupid little program >for $39.99. > >Glenn Smith >PC Based Automation >CodeMech Systems (at yahoo.com) > Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP] email: newcomer(a)flounder.com Web: http://www.flounder.com MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm
From: "Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]" on 27 May 2008 22:46 Hi, I think Hans means "Show Desktop" button in the quick launch area. Anyway, you can try to press "WinKey + D" combination to achieve the same effect. Note: "WinKey" means the key between Ctrl and Alt in the keyboard; most keyboards have WinKey. This key combination functions the same as the "Show Desktop" button in the quick launch area. It clears the screen by minimizing all the windows or sending them to background. Thanks. Best regards, Jeffrey Tan Microsoft Online Community Support ========================================= Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: msdnmg(a)microsoft.com. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
From: Joseph M. Newcomer on 28 May 2008 01:44 Is there a way to disable the WinKey+anything misfeature? I keep hitting that stupid key by accident and finding myself in places I don't want to be running programs I don't want to run doing things I don't want to have done. Nobody in the last 20 years or so has designed a usable keyboard, and the WinKey is a horrible idea that does nothing more than interfere with my comfortable usage of the computer. joe On Wed, 28 May 2008 02:46:05 GMT, jetan(a)online.microsoft.com ("Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]") wrote: >Hi, > >I think Hans means "Show Desktop" button in the quick launch area. Anyway, >you can try to press "WinKey + D" combination to achieve the same effect. >Note: "WinKey" means the key between Ctrl and Alt in the keyboard; most >keyboards have WinKey. > >This key combination functions the same as the "Show Desktop" button in the >quick launch area. It clears the screen by minimizing all the windows or >sending them to background. > >Thanks. > >Best regards, >Jeffrey Tan >Microsoft Online Community Support >========================================= >Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and >suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please >feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service >provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: >msdnmg(a)microsoft.com. > >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP] email: newcomer(a)flounder.com Web: http://www.flounder.com MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm
From: "Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]" on 28 May 2008 02:43
Hi Joseph , I am not a Windows expert; I do not know of any configuration to disable WinKey. I assume it is the explorer.exe process that calls RegisterHotKey API for all the WinKey combinations. Maybe a keyboard filter driver is needed to suppress it. Thanks. Best regards, Jeffrey Tan Microsoft Online Community Support ========================================= Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: msdnmg(a)microsoft.com. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |