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From: 0junk4me on 19 Apr 2008 15:12

Jack wrote:
>And *with* detailed knowledge of his setup, the OP could probably
>figure this out for himself.
THat's what i keep thinking. THis kind of troubleshooting
takes some attention to detail. OTherwise, it's not rocket
science.

>George, you need to narrow this down. The 'weird things' happening
>all have names and causes. You need to figure out where in the
>system the signals are getting in. You say your bass player is
>using a wireless setup. Have you tried muting (or just ducking)
>his channel when you hear the interference? Better yet would be to
>solo that channel and listen through headphones.
>In fact solo *every* channel in turn, whenever it's happening.
>Track it down. If it's not coming through a channel, things get a
>little more complicated. You have to figure out exactly what part
>of the system is picking up the leakage, then analyze why, then fix
>it.
After you've taken these steps, you'll find the answers you
seek.

>It's not extremely complicated, but it doesn't lend itself to remote
>diagnosis.
Also, just as an fyi George, you can't give us vague
information such as you've provided and expect that we'll be
able to help. WE don't have enough information to provide
you anything but speculation.




Richard webb,
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From: George on 19 Apr 2008 15:35
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:39:26 -0500, jakdedert
<jakdedert(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Uh...yeah. It's called a transmitter...or more precisely a transceiver.
> IOW, a transmitter/receiver. You haven't detailed what sort of
>wireless signals you have in your system. I'm a little amazed (amused?0
>that you 'run sound' and don't have enough technical acumen to answer at
>least parts of this question yourself.
>
>jak

I'm not a sound man or I would have probably figured this out. This
"job" got sat in my lap by someone leaving us high and dry...so for
now I'm struggling through. Thanks for the snide remarks anyway..I'm
sure if I was a "real" sound guy they would have been more affective.
From: Eeyore on 19 Apr 2008 16:14


FatBoySlimFast wrote:

> George <George(a)yahoo##.com> wrote:
> >I run sound at a club and have had some weird things happening in the
> >P.A. I've had people talking and miscellaneous sounds fly in and out.
> >How is someone doing this? Is there a device they're using that can
> >pick up wireless signals etc..and break in??
>
> Has the venue, or one next door, got a hearing induction loop? These
> things pick up the ambient noise in the room and then transmit them as
> an electromagnetic signal so that people with hearing aids can pick
> them up.
>
> Single coil pickups on guitars, especially when you use a lot of gain,
> can pick this up and amplify it.

One thing I'd be interested to know is if this just started happening
recently. If so, then check out what was just changed recently ! There's
often a close correlation between things changing and 'funny stuff'
happening immediately after.

Graham

From: Eeyore on 19 Apr 2008 16:17


George wrote:

> jakdedert wrote:
>
> >Uh...yeah. It's called a transmitter...or more precisely a transceiver.
> > IOW, a transmitter/receiver. You haven't detailed what sort of
> >wireless signals you have in your system. I'm a little amazed (amused?0
> >that you 'run sound' and don't have enough technical acumen to answer at
> >least parts of this question yourself.
>
> I'm not a sound man or I would have probably figured this out. This
> "job" got sat in my lap by someone leaving us high and dry...so for
> now I'm struggling through.

Good luck to you on that account.


> Thanks for the snide remarks anyway..I'm
> sure if I was a "real" sound guy they would have been more affective.

This is a group for professionals, so the comment was perfectly valid and not
really snide at all. One has to know all the details *including the
limitations of your own abilities* to be able to usefully help further,
beyond as I said earlier, mere guesswork.

Graham


From: Joe Kotroczo on 19 Apr 2008 17:23
On 19/04/08 23:03, in article 46tOj.53879$vr3.43991(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net,
"jakdedert" <jakdedert(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:

(...)
> My final advice would be to hire somebody with the knowledge,
> experience and desire to run sound at the club. If George wants to be
> that person, he needs to grow a thicker skin first and foremost; then
> hire someone to get him up to speed on the basics (as well as solve the
> problem at hand) and back him up while he studies the finer points on
> his own.

If memory serves, this has been recommended fairly often as a good starting
point:

http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Reinforcement-Handbook-Gary-Davis/dp/0881889008/
ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208640127&sr=8-1

--
Joe Kotroczo kotroczo(a)mac.com

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