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From: Charlie3110 on 9 May 2008 05:15 Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain laptops I get the message "\\charlie (laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks
From: Chuck [MVP] on 10 May 2008 12:01 On Fri, 9 May 2008 02:15:01 -0700, Charlie3110 <Charlie3110(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last >communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home >network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and >passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account >on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be >different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all >machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one >particular user's account) for >convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP >and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called >them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask >for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open >user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access >the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain >laptops I get the message "\\charlie >(laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this >network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you >have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do >now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't >set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks Charlie, The "Guest" account is a special account that's present on all computers, though not always active, already. Proper security says that it should be disabled except when absolutely required, as it provides unauthenticated access to all network users. What you setup is an additional non-Guest account named "Guest". You need to make sure that your non-Guest account is Activated for network access, and that all shares are properly permissioned for "Guest". <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html But my real advice would be for you to remove your "Guest" account, and prevent confusion between it and the built-in "Guest" account. But DO NOT remove the actual built-in "Guest" account please. Then, setup a real non-Guest account, with a non-"Guest" name, activate it properly, and permission the shared folders. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
From: Charlie3110 on 12 May 2008 10:40 thanks for that Chuck. I thought that Guest account was too simple and I didn't feel that I had done enough when I wasn't asked to provide a password. I will start again with a proper account as Malke tried to advise me and see how I get on. I will let you know. Thanks again. Charlie "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2008 02:15:01 -0700, Charlie3110 > <Charlie3110(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last > >communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home > >network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and > >passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account > >on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be > >different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all > >machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one > >particular user's account) for > >convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP > >and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called > >them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask > >for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open > >user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access > >the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain > >laptops I get the message "\\charlie > >(laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this > >network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you > >have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do > >now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't > >set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks > > > Charlie, > > The "Guest" account is a special account that's present on all computers, though > not always active, already. Proper security says that it should be disabled > except when absolutely required, as it provides unauthenticated access to all > network users. What you setup is an additional non-Guest account named "Guest". > You need to make sure that your non-Guest account is Activated for network > access, and that all shares are properly permissioned for "Guest". > <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html> > http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html > > But my real advice would be for you to remove your "Guest" account, and prevent > confusion between it and the built-in "Guest" account. But DO NOT remove the > actual built-in "Guest" account please. Then, setup a real non-Guest account, > with a non-"Guest" name, activate it properly, and permission the shared > folders. > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] > http://networking.nitecruzr.net/ >
From: Charlie3110 on 13 May 2008 11:31 Chuck I have done that according to your instructions but still can't see the other laptop. I have made an account on each machine called "shareaccount" and ran the net user command on both machines and it told me that I was successful on both machines and then I went to my network places and hoped to see the laptop but coudn't. Have I got more to do or have I missed something? I had left the passwords blank at this stage as it said I could but now I have set the passwords the same using the control userpasswords2 command but still no joy on the My network Places. Ideas please. Thanks "Charlie3110" wrote: > thanks for that Chuck. I thought that Guest account was too simple and I > didn't feel that I had done enough when I wasn't asked to provide a password. > I will start again with a proper account as Malke tried to advise me and see > how I get on. I will let you know. Thanks again. > Charlie > > "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 May 2008 02:15:01 -0700, Charlie3110 > > <Charlie3110(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > >Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last > > >communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home > > >network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and > > >passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account > > >on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be > > >different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all > > >machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one > > >particular user's account) for > > >convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP > > >and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called > > >them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask > > >for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open > > >user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access > > >the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain > > >laptops I get the message "\\charlie > > >(laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this > > >network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you > > >have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do > > >now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't > > >set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks > > > > > > Charlie, > > > > The "Guest" account is a special account that's present on all computers, though > > not always active, already. Proper security says that it should be disabled > > except when absolutely required, as it provides unauthenticated access to all > > network users. What you setup is an additional non-Guest account named "Guest". > > You need to make sure that your non-Guest account is Activated for network > > access, and that all shares are properly permissioned for "Guest". > > <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html> > > http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html > > > > But my real advice would be for you to remove your "Guest" account, and prevent > > confusion between it and the built-in "Guest" account. But DO NOT remove the > > actual built-in "Guest" account please. Then, setup a real non-Guest account, > > with a non-"Guest" name, activate it properly, and permission the shared > > folders. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] > > http://networking.nitecruzr.net/ > >
From: Chuck [MVP] on 13 May 2008 17:56 On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, Charlie3110 <Charlie3110(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >"Charlie3110" wrote: >> "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 9 May 2008 02:15:01 -0700, Charlie3110 >> > <Charlie3110(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> > >> > >Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last >> > >communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home >> > >network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and >> > >passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account >> > >on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be >> > >different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all >> > >machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one >> > >particular user's account) for >> > >convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP >> > >and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called >> > >them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask >> > >for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open >> > >user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access >> > >the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain >> > >laptops I get the message "\\charlie >> > >(laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this >> > >network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you >> > >have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do >> > >now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't >> > >set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks >> > >> > >> > Charlie, >> > >> > The "Guest" account is a special account that's present on all computers, though >> > not always active, already. Proper security says that it should be disabled >> > except when absolutely required, as it provides unauthenticated access to all >> > network users. What you setup is an additional non-Guest account named "Guest". >> > You need to make sure that your non-Guest account is Activated for network >> > access, and that all shares are properly permissioned for "Guest". >> > <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html> >> > http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html >> > >> > But my real advice would be for you to remove your "Guest" account, and prevent >> > confusion between it and the built-in "Guest" account. But DO NOT remove the >> > actual built-in "Guest" account please. Then, setup a real non-Guest account, >> > with a non-"Guest" name, activate it properly, and permission the shared >> > folders. > >> thanks for that Chuck. I thought that Guest account was too simple and I >> didn't feel that I had done enough when I wasn't asked to provide a password. >> I will start again with a proper account as Malke tried to advise me and see >> how I get on. I will let you know. Thanks again. >> Charlie >> >Chuck I have done that according to your instructions but still can't see the >other laptop. I have made an account on each machine called "shareaccount" >and ran the net user command on both machines and it told me that I was >successful on both machines and then I went to my network places and hoped to >see the laptop but coudn't. Have I got more to do or have I missed something? >I had left the passwords blank at this stage as it said I could but now I >have set the passwords the same using the control userpasswords2 command but >still no joy on the My network Places. >Ideas please. Thanks Charlie, If visibility is a problem, then your SMBs are being blocked. Look for a personal firewall or other security device. <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html A simple and very popular problem cause is the restrictanonymous setting. <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html If no help yet, look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
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