Home network with windows 98SE and XP computers doesn't work
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From: raygk on 21 May 2008 13:47 Originally I set up a network between a windows 98SE and XP computer and everything worked except I was unable to get printer sharing. Unfortunately, a problem during an unrelated upgrade of XP caused me to resort to a backup clone of the XP operating system (that did not have networking setup). I have been unable to restore a completely working network. I've seen many Win98-XP network problems mentioned on forums (including http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web/browse_thread/thread/53803cadadb55b11/3e595a275207227c?hl=en&lnk=st&q=how+to+home+network+with+xp+and+win98+computers#3e595a275207227c) but I have never seen a problem quite like I have. I've tried many different things but am not able to solve this. Without networking experience, I could use some detailed help. The problem: I have setup one windows 98SE computer (Dell with 128MB ram) and one windows XP computer (Blackbox with 2GB ram) connected via a DSL modem/ Router gateway using ethernet cables. Both computers reach the Internet well. I am able to share 98SE files and folders with the XP (both reading and writing) and have setup a mapped drive for a 98SE shared drive on the XP computer. I can NOT read or write to shared files on the XP computer from the 98SE computer. Both computers show the shared folders under their respective network/workgroup screens. When I attempt to read or map a shared folder from the XP on the 98SE computer, I get an error message. The message reads: "\\BLACKBOX \sharedfolder is not available. There is not enough memory to complete this task. Close some other programs." There are few things running on the 98SE computer and this same computer was able to read/ write to the XP before. Setup for the computers: The 98SE computer uses a Robotics 10/100 PCI NIC TX adapter with: Client for Microsoft Networks Dialup Adapter US Robotics 10/100 PCI MIC TX IPX/SPX compatible protocol -> Dialup Adapter IPX/SPX compatible protocol -> US Robotics 10/100 PCI MIC TX NETBIOS support for IPX/SPX compatible Protocol TCP/IP -> Dialup Adapter TCP/IP -> US Robotics 10/100 PCI MIC TX File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks The network adapter is bound to the associated IPX/SPX protocol and TCP/IP The XP computer using an Attansic L1 Gigabite Ethernet adapter with: Client for Microsoft Networks File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks QoS Packet Scheduler Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Summary: Both computers are connected from network interfaces though ethernet connections to a SDL modem/Router. Both computers are connect to the internet and both work with it fine. Both computers have shared folders defined. Both computers "see" the network and both show the correct shared folders for each computer. Both computers are on a workgroup called "Home". I can ping from either computer to the other one correctly. I can write to and read files on the 98SE computer from the XP computer but not the other way around. I have turned off both firewalls from the two computers without an improvement. I have run out of ideas as to how to get this network to work from the win98SE computer. I would appreciate any help or suggestions. Remember, I am not experienced in networking and could use detailed help. Thanks in advance.
From: smlunatick on 21 May 2008 15:30 Locate the Windows 98 SE user account "name" and create the same user account on the XP. XP is a secured Windows that needs to have user credentials to exist for any remote user access (including Windows 98Se "unsecured" systems.) On 21/05/2008 raygk <rgk456(a)verizon.net> wrote: >Originally I set up a network between a windows 98SE and XP computer >and everything worked except I was unable to get printer sharing. >Unfortunately, a problem during an unrelated upgrade of XP caused me >to resort to a backup clone of the XP operating system (that did not >have networking setup). I have been unable to restore a completely >working network. I've seen many Win98-XP network problems mentioned >on forums (including >http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web/browse_th read/thread/53803cadadb55b11/3e595a275207227c?hl=en&lnk=st&q=how+to+home+network +with+xp+and+win98+computers#3e595a275207227c) >but I have never seen a problem quite like I have. I've tried many >different things but am not able to solve this. Without networking >experience, I could use some detailed help. > >The problem: >I have setup one windows 98SE computer (Dell with 128MB ram) and one >windows XP computer (Blackbox with 2GB ram) connected via a DSL modem/ >Router gateway using ethernet cables. Both computers reach the >Internet well. > >I am able to share 98SE files and folders with the XP (both reading >and writing) and have setup a mapped drive for a 98SE shared drive on >the XP computer. I can NOT read or write to shared files on the XP >computer from the 98SE computer. Both computers show the shared >folders under their respective network/workgroup screens. > >When I attempt to read or map a shared folder from the XP on the 98SE >computer, I get an error message. The message reads: "\\BLACKBOX >\sharedfolder is not available. There is not enough memory to >complete this task. Close some other programs." There are few things >running on the 98SE computer and this same computer was able to read/ >write to the XP before. > >Setup for the computers: >The 98SE computer uses a Robotics 10/100 PCI NIC TX adapter with: > Client for Microsoft Networks > Dialup Adapter > US Robotics 10/100 PCI MIC TX > IPX/SPX compatible protocol -> Dialup Adapter > IPX/SPX compatible protocol -> US Robotics 10/100 PCI MIC TX > NETBIOS support for IPX/SPX compatible Protocol > TCP/IP -> Dialup Adapter > TCP/IP -> US Robotics 10/100 PCI MIC TX > File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks > > The network adapter is bound to the associated IPX/SPX protocol and >TCP/IP > >The XP computer using an Attansic L1 Gigabite Ethernet adapter with: > Client for Microsoft Networks > File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks > QoS Packet Scheduler > Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) > >Summary: >Both computers are connected from network interfaces though ethernet >connections to a SDL modem/Router. >Both computers are connect to the internet and both work with it fine. >Both computers have shared folders defined. >Both computers "see" the network and both show the correct shared >folders for each computer. >Both computers are on a workgroup called "Home". >I can ping from either computer to the other one correctly. >I can write to and read files on the 98SE computer from the XP >computer but not the other way around. >I have turned off both firewalls from the two computers without an >improvement. > >I have run out of ideas as to how to get this network to work from the >win98SE computer. I would appreciate any help or suggestions. >Remember, I am not experienced in networking and could use detailed >help. > >Thanks in advance.
From: raygk on 21 May 2008 17:58 On May 21, 12:30 pm, "smlunatick" <yves...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Locate the Windows 98 SE user account "name" and create the same user account > on the XP. XP is a secured Windows that needs to have user credentials to > exist for any remote user access (including Windows 98Se "unsecured" systems.) Thanks for the response. The 98SE computer never had separate users identified or passwords. On the Network - Access Control tab, "All users on this computer use the same preferences and desktop settings" is enabled. Should not the XP therefore be available to anyone using the 98SE computer? This is how it was set up previously when the network did work from the 98SE computer (to the best of my memory). Do you think I should create a user account on the 98SE?
From: smlunatick on 22 May 2008 10:48 Yes. XP requires a user. On 21/05/2008 raygk <rgk456(a)verizon.net> wrote: >On May 21, 12:30 pm, "smlunatick" <yves...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Locate the Windows 98 SE user account "name" and create the same user account >> on the XP. XP is a secured Windows that needs to have user credentials to >> exist for any remote user access (including Windows 98Se "unsecured" systems.) > >Thanks for the response. > >The 98SE computer never had separate users identified or passwords. >On the Network - Access Control tab, "All users on this computer use >the same preferences and desktop settings" is enabled. Should not the >XP therefore be available to anyone using the 98SE computer? This is >how it was set up previously when the network did work from the 98SE >computer (to the best of my memory). Do you think I should create a >user account on the 98SE?
From: raygk on 22 May 2008 19:29 On May 22, 7:48 am, "smlunatick" <yves...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes. XP requires a user. Well, I set up a user on the 98SE and then added the same user to the XP but it still did not work any better. Perhaps I didn't do it correctly. I know it took me a long time to remove the new user from 98SE and get windows to start again without the log-on window appearing :(. Do you know of any place where I might find a detailed tutorial or "how to" to add the user on the two machines? I don't seem to be doing too well on my own. (It still bothers me that it once worked without adding anything to either computers other than running the network setup wizard on the XP and the resulting floppy on the 98SE.)
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