From: RnR on
On Tue, 6 May 2008 16:48:55 -0500, "S.Lewis"
<Gossamer(a)interesting.com> wrote:

>
>"Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>news:iqudnVqfbY5BIb3VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>> "Charles Summers" <vmm(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:09ydnay5WeNLJr3VnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:J4udndxkYZ7VK73VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>>> assuming that you have all yoru ducks in a row and have done this
>>>> before, from start to finish it takes 6-8 hours to completely reinstall
>>>> windows, install all the drivers specific , etc...>
>>>
>>> Are you sure this isn't something that can be done in just a couple of
>>> hours? Seems to me that last umpteen times that I've done it, it was only
>>> a couple of hours.
>>>
>>> To the OP: be sure to back up everything that your dad needs.
>>>
>>
>> generally it is more economical to purchase a new computer than to do a
>> software rebuild. of course this depends on how you value your time.
>> with malware scanners you only have to invest the time to start the scan
>> and then are free to do whatever you want while it does its job.
>>
>
>
>Geek Squad charges $249 for an onsite OS reinstall. ($129 instore or
>online). This is with drivers and critical updates only and *no*
>applications installed:
>http://www.geeksquad.com/pricing/default.aspx#section3
>
>2 hours would be extremely optimistic and dependent upon experience of the
>installer, organization of same, and the speed of the system itself (and
>almost surely would not include all applications and utilties).
>

I take my time and knowledge for granted when at home and I rarely see
outside pricing for this pc stuff but when I do, I'm blown away by it.
But I guess in fairness, it's a business too.
From: Rich/rerat on
void.no.spam,
If you choose to go through with a full restore on your Dad's PC. Consider
purchasing the Acronis TrueImage version 10 or higher (XP or Vista
compatible). Once you get the PC the way you want it. It would easier in the
future, to have a "pristine" image of your C:\ drive if you ever need to
restore it. With this program it will restore your system, usually withing
an half hour or so. Be aware that this might disable the Restore process
under F12. I would back up that Hidden partition First. Before using Acronis
TI.

I have done this on my PC's with Acronis TI:
1. Reinstall Windows. Or use Restore from Hidden partition if installed.
2. Reinstall Drivers using the Resource CD.
3. Reinstall Antivirus Program.
4. Connect to Internet (setting up router if necessary).
5. Reinstall any updates found for your Model on the Dell Driver Page.
6. Upgrade Video Drivers from Nvidia or ATI at their websites.
7. Go to MS and get all the updates that are available, this might take some
time and reboots.
8. Install MS Office or MS Works programs.
9. Go back to the MS Update Site and install updates for the Office/Works
Program.
10. Now you can choose to install printers, scanners, etc... or you can
choose to make a backup/image of your C:\ Drive at this time.
11. Install Acronis TI or boot PC with Acronis TI CD in CD-ROM.
12. Make a FULL backup image of your C:\ Drive, and save it to another drive
or DVD. If making a DVD backup, you will need to have install the DVD
burning software on your PC. Make sure that you choose to run the
verification check, this way you know that the saved file is operational.
a. After this you can make incremental backups of the original file for
any changes that have been made. I prefer to make additional backups and
just name the file differently so I can tell the difference. Especially if
you have a 2nd HDD, or use an external HDD for backup purposes.
13. Now you can other programs, games, or hardware to your PC, with all the
appropriate updates/upgrades. As mention in Step #12a, I would make a 2nd
FULL backup of the C:\ drive, once you are sure that all is running right,
and save it to another drive/partition.

--
Rich/rerat
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"Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Charles Summers" <vmm(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:J4udndxkYZ7VK73VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>> assuming that you have all yoru ducks in a row and have done this before,
>> from start to finish it takes 6-8 hours to completely reinstall windows,
>> install all the drivers specific , etc...>
>
> Are you sure this isn't something that can be done in just a couple of
> hours? Seems to me that last umpteen times that I've done it, it was only
> a couple of hours.
>
> To the OP: be sure to back up everything that your dad needs.
>

generally it is more economical to purchase a new computer than to do a
software rebuild. of course this depends on how you value your time. with
malware scanners you only have to invest the time to start the scan and then
are free to do whatever you want while it does its job.




<void.no.spam.com(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:<eb79b2d6-285d-4937-a517-7f765b94c98b(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>...

My dad was browsing the other day, and called me over to the

computer. Firefox had somehow gone over to onlinexpscanner.com (which

I have discovered is a spyware site) and downloaded an executable

file, and there were prompts to run some code. I closed all the

browser windows and deleted the executable file.

Now I am wondering if my dad may have inadvertently installed any

spyware, before he called me over. I could spend several hours

running a bunch of scans, or maybe I can just reinstall Vista and the

Dell Drivers CD? How long would all that take? There are even old

posts in this newsgroup where people said their computer runs faster

after doing a reinstall of Windows, than it did when Dell shipped it

to them.

From: WSZsr on
Use the hidden restore partition and it will take 20 or 30 minutes or less!

<void.no.spam.com(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eb79b2d6-285d-4937-a517-7f765b94c98b(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> My dad was browsing the other day, and called me over to the
> computer. Firefox had somehow gone over to onlinexpscanner.com (which
> I have discovered is a spyware site) and downloaded an executable
> file, and there were prompts to run some code. I closed all the
> browser windows and deleted the executable file.
>
> Now I am wondering if my dad may have inadvertently installed any
> spyware, before he called me over. I could spend several hours
> running a bunch of scans, or maybe I can just reinstall Vista and the
> Dell Drivers CD? How long would all that take? There are even old
> posts in this newsgroup where people said their computer runs faster
> after doing a reinstall of Windows, than it did when Dell shipped it
> to them.

From: Christopher Muto on
"RnR" <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbn124phbr56hv33mdbj4cnd9rk6qajnlu(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 16:48:55 -0500, "S.Lewis"
> <Gossamer(a)interesting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>news:iqudnVqfbY5BIb3VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>> "Charles Summers" <vmm(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:09ydnay5WeNLJr3VnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:J4udndxkYZ7VK73VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>>>> assuming that you have all yoru ducks in a row and have done this
>>>>> before, from start to finish it takes 6-8 hours to completely
>>>>> reinstall
>>>>> windows, install all the drivers specific , etc...>
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure this isn't something that can be done in just a couple of
>>>> hours? Seems to me that last umpteen times that I've done it, it was
>>>> only
>>>> a couple of hours.
>>>>
>>>> To the OP: be sure to back up everything that your dad needs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> generally it is more economical to purchase a new computer than to do a
>>> software rebuild. of course this depends on how you value your time.
>>> with malware scanners you only have to invest the time to start the scan
>>> and then are free to do whatever you want while it does its job.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Geek Squad charges $249 for an onsite OS reinstall. ($129 instore or
>>online). This is with drivers and critical updates only and *no*
>>applications installed:
>>http://www.geeksquad.com/pricing/default.aspx#section3
>>
>>2 hours would be extremely optimistic and dependent upon experience of the
>>installer, organization of same, and the speed of the system itself (and
>>almost surely would not include all applications and utilties).
>>
>
> I take my time and knowledge for granted when at home and I rarely see
> outside pricing for this pc stuff but when I do, I'm blown away by it.
> But I guess in fairness, it's a business too.

that is funny, because my reaction to that pricing is that it is incredibly
cheap. could you image the long winded story that the poor people at geek
squad have to endure before even taking in the computer for an operating
system reinstall only to earn $129... and the follow up calls that are sure
to follow like :my outlook email doesn't work like it used to..." ugh.


From: Christopher Muto on
now that's the right answer!

"WSZsr" <nospam(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4820ed6d$0$20199$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com...
> Use the hidden restore partition and it will take 20 or 30 minutes or
> less!
>
> <void.no.spam.com(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eb79b2d6-285d-4937-a517-7f765b94c98b(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> My dad was browsing the other day, and called me over to the
>> computer. Firefox had somehow gone over to onlinexpscanner.com (which
>> I have discovered is a spyware site) and downloaded an executable
>> file, and there were prompts to run some code. I closed all the
>> browser windows and deleted the executable file.
>>
>> Now I am wondering if my dad may have inadvertently installed any
>> spyware, before he called me over. I could spend several hours
>> running a bunch of scans, or maybe I can just reinstall Vista and the
>> Dell Drivers CD? How long would all that take? There are even old
>> posts in this newsgroup where people said their computer runs faster
>> after doing a reinstall of Windows, than it did when Dell shipped it
>> to them.
>


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