From: Grant on
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:07:22 +0000, Peter Chant <REMpeteOVE(a)CAPpetezilla.ITALSco.uk> wrote:

>Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>> Yes, you have to do this. However, if it can boot from CD and not boot
>> from DVD, BIOS boot order is not the problem.
>>
>Another question, will other/older distros boot from DVD? There is a bios
>issue with some systems. I personally know little of this but it has been
>discussed in alt.os.linux.slackware

Yes, but the noise level in a.o.l.s is a little high at the moment ;)

Alternate slack-12 boot methods are available, PXE and USB, in the
usb-and-pxe-installers directory on the install DVD. See the READMEs.

Grant.
--
http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/
From: john on
On Jan 25, 9:18 pm, Grant <g_r_a_n...(a)dodo.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:07:22 +0000, Peter Chant <REMpete...(a)CAPpetezilla.ITALSco.uk> wrote:
> >Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> >> Yes, you have to do this. However, if it can boot from CD and not boot
> >> from DVD, BIOS boot order is not the problem.
>
> >Another question, will other/older distros boot from DVD? There is a bios
> >issue with some systems. I personally know little of this but it has been
> >discussed in alt.os.linux.slackware
>
> Yes, but the noise level in a.o.l.s is a little high at the moment ;)
>
> Alternate slack-12 boot methods are available, PXE and USB, in the
> usb-and-pxe-installers directory on the install DVD. See the READMEs.
>
> Grant.
> --http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/

Here is another thought. Can I just mount the dvd image on /mnt/cdrom
and then install from that? I already mounted it on /mnt/cdrom. But I
assume that I could only install to a different partition, based on
the fact that you can't be your own grandpa. Still that is an option
I will explore.

That doesn't attack the larger problem of how to get the DVD drive
working in DVD mode, however. My bios dates to 2000 and it doesn't
have a DVD device as a boot option, only CDR. I can't do anything with
a movie DVD either.

From: Peter Chant on
Grant wrote:

> Yes, but the noise level in a.o.l.s is a little high at the moment ;)
>

Compared to some other news groups unfortunately it is a model of civility
and restraint. :-(

> Alternate slack-12 boot methods are available, PXE and USB, in the
> usb-and-pxe-installers directory on the install DVD. See the READMEs.
>
> Grant.

I did as a temporary dodge at one point boot Slax from a USB stick and then
do chroot to the root of an external hard drive. Not quite what the OP
wants but works in a pinch.

--
http://www.petezilla.co.uk
From: Dances With Crows on
john(a)wexfordpress.com staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> Grant wrote:
>> Peter Chant wrote:
>>>Dances With Crows wrote:
>>>> Yes, you have to do this. However, if it can boot from CD and not
>>>> boot from DVD, BIOS boot order is not the problem.

You haven't made the problems that this DVD+-RW is having clear. Can it
read CD-R*s? Can it read DVD+-Rs? Can it read DVD-ROMs? The answers
to these questions will determine what you need to do.

>> Alternate slack-12 boot methods are available, PXE and USB, in the
>> usb-and-pxe-installers directory on the install DVD. See the READMEs.
> Here is another thought. Can I just mount the dvd image on /mnt/cdrom
> and then install from that?

Highly possible.

> That doesn't attack the larger problem of how to get the DVD drive
> working in DVD mode, however. My bios dates to 2000 and it doesn't
> have a DVD device as a boot option, only CDR.

This shouldn't matter. Both DVDs and CDs typically use El Torito
emulation, and that's all the BIOS sees. From the BIOS's point of view,
a DVD is just a larger CD.

> I can't do anything with a movie DVD either.

If this is the case, you should have said something about it in your
*first message*. All movie DVDs have UDF filesystems on them. If you
insert a movie DVD into a working Linux box with a DVD-+RW, then "mount
/dev/hdN /mnt/somewhere", it should work. Note that you must replace
/dev/hdN with the name of the DVD-+RW (/dev/hdc is common, check the
output of "dmesg | grep DVD" for the full scoop.) If it doesn't work,
then try dd'ing the first few K off of /dev/hdN. If *that* returns an
I/O error, it is highly probable that the drive itself is mechanically
hosed. Hope you saved the receipt in that case.

--
I have had to deal with kangaroos, donkeys, cows, wild pigs
and some press leaks by former Vice President Cheney.
--MegaHAL, trained on ASR
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
From: Michael Black on
"john(a)wexfordpress.com" (john(a)wexfordpress.com) writes:
> On Jan 25, 9:18 pm, Grant <g_r_a_n...(a)dodo.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:07:22 +0000, Peter Chant <REMpete...(a)CAPpetezilla.ITALSco.uk> wrote:
>> >Dances With Crows wrote:
>>
>> >> Yes, you have to do this. However, if it can boot from CD and not boot
>> >> from DVD, BIOS boot order is not the problem.
>>
>> >Another question, will other/older distros boot from DVD? There is a bios
>> >issue with some systems. I personally know little of this but it has been
>> >discussed in alt.os.linux.slackware
>>
>> Yes, but the noise level in a.o.l.s is a little high at the moment ;)
>>
>> Alternate slack-12 boot methods are available, PXE and USB, in the
>> usb-and-pxe-installers directory on the install DVD. See the READMEs.
>>
>> Grant.
>> --http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/
>
> Here is another thought. Can I just mount the dvd image on /mnt/cdrom
> and then install from that? I already mounted it on /mnt/cdrom. But I
> assume that I could only install to a different partition, based on
> the fact that you can't be your own grandpa. Still that is an option
> I will explore.
>
> That doesn't attack the larger problem of how to get the DVD drive
> working in DVD mode, however. My bios dates to 2000 and it doesn't
> have a DVD device as a boot option, only CDR. I can't do anything with
> a movie DVD either.
>
There's two issues here, the booting and the reading.

If you can't mount the device, then you might check the box to make
sure it really can read DVDs. I changed my CDRW drive, and the new
one was listed as a DVD drive during the boot process, even though it
wasn't. On a later version of my distribution, there's no word of
"DVD".

Or perhaps the drive is dying. I had to replace my DVD drive (read
only) because it was generating massive amounts of error messages
every time I used it. I finally replaced it when I couldn't read a
DVD.

Watching movies may require the addition of some things, because
the DVD standard is not open, and some or many distributions won't
ship all set up to watch DVD movies.

The bios thing is about setting which drive to boot from, it
should't be about CD or DVD, but about drive (ie hard drive, floppy,
CD). If it says "CD" that should be irrelevant, because in order
to have a bootable DVD, it has to compatible with the CD to
some extent.

Michael