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From: AKA Gray Asphalt on 21 Oct 2006 18:24 Any ideas about how to take an improvised piano part and clone it to a track with a mono instrument for a kind of accompaniement? Is there a set of guidelines about counterpoint or practical ideas about which notes to eliminate without experimenting for a long time?
From: Sue Morton on 23 Oct 2006 09:38 The more you know about music theory, the faster you would be able to do this... but that is not a fast track :-) Quicker than learning theory :-) would be to listen to songs that sound similar to what you want, and improvise on what you hear. -- Sue Morton "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message news:ofx_g.6411$v43.2810(a)fed1read02... > Any ideas about how to take an improvised piano part and clone it to a > track with a mono instrument for a kind of accompaniement? Is there a set > of guidelines about counterpoint or practical ideas about which notes to > eliminate without experimenting for a long time? > >
From: AKA Gray Asphalt on 23 Oct 2006 17:03 "Sue Morton" <867-5309(a)domain.invalid> wrote in message news:LB3%g.582$s6.313(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > The more you know about music theory, the faster you would be able to do > this... but that is not a fast track :-) > > Quicker than learning theory :-) would be to listen to songs that sound > similar to what you want, and improvise on what you hear. > -- > Sue Morton > > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message > news:ofx_g.6411$v43.2810(a)fed1read02... >> Any ideas about how to take an improvised piano part and clone it to a >> track with a mono instrument for a kind of accompaniement? Is there a set >> of guidelines about counterpoint or practical ideas about which notes to >> eliminate without experimenting for a long time? Thanks for your response. I've got a little knowledge about chords. I like know the main ones, the ones that seem to make a real difference in sound. I have little knowledge about forms of songs. Like I didn't know what a 'bridge' was until you guys explained it to me. Is there an easy way to just type in chords in some text file and have it converted to midi so I can hear what progressions sound like that I don't want to spend a lot of time clicking out with a mouse? Maybe that sounds lazy but it seems to me that chords are so affected by what is played previously that it would be really difficult to know what sounds good or especially good and new by trying to do it that slow way. It seems like someone could program midi controls to move notes and do quick transpositions and pastes from libraries that would speed up the process. Maybe that would be a bad thing because of all of the learning and individual sacrafice of real musicians but it might make some really beautiful music that might not have been ever heard. I find myself writing things that will easily be transferred to a musical staff and that is limiting, imo. Does that sound arrogant? In any case it is a lot of fun, even the painstaking times, I could do for a long time without getting bored. It's just that other ideas torture me to get out, even though they are probably really not very good.
From: Frank on 23 Oct 2006 21:24 I believe you said you have Band in a box, that's what your doing in there. What's wrong with that, doesn't get much quicker. Of course, sitting on my couch with my accoustic guitar, playing chords, changing keys is pretty quick. I do not understand what you are looking for? Please do not take this the wrong way, but many of your posts have to do with "quick and easy", etc. Music is not quick and easy. Takes dedication and PRACTICE. Frank L "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message news:Lfa%g.6573$v43.3376(a)fed1read02... > > "Sue Morton" <867-5309(a)domain.invalid> wrote in message > news:LB3%g.582$s6.313(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... >> The more you know about music theory, the faster you would be able to do >> this... but that is not a fast track :-) >> >> Quicker than learning theory :-) would be to listen to songs that sound >> similar to what you want, and improvise on what you hear. >> -- >> Sue Morton >> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message >> news:ofx_g.6411$v43.2810(a)fed1read02... >>> Any ideas about how to take an improvised piano part and clone it to a >>> track with a mono instrument for a kind of accompaniement? Is there a >>> set of guidelines about counterpoint or practical ideas about which >>> notes to eliminate without experimenting for a long time? > > Thanks for your response. I've got a little knowledge about chords. I like > know the main ones, the ones that seem to make a real difference in sound. > I have little knowledge about forms of songs. Like I didn't know what a > 'bridge' was until you guys explained it to me. > > Is there an easy way to just type in chords in some text file and have it > converted to midi so I can hear what progressions sound like that I don't > want to spend a lot of time clicking out with a mouse? Maybe that sounds > lazy but it seems to me that chords are so affected by what is played > previously that it would be really difficult to know what sounds good or > especially good and new by trying to do it that slow way. It seems like > someone could program midi controls to move notes and do quick > transpositions and pastes from libraries that would speed up the process. > Maybe that would be a bad thing because of all of the learning and > individual sacrafice of real musicians but it might make some really > beautiful music that might not have been ever heard. I find myself writing > things that will easily be transferred to a musical staff and that is > limiting, imo. Does that sound arrogant? In any case it is a lot of fun, > even the painstaking times, I could do for a long time without getting > bored. It's just that other ideas torture me to get out, even though they > are probably really not very good. > >
From: Sue Morton on 23 Oct 2006 22:24
The more you transcribe and replicate by ear, the faster you begin to recognize a chord, scale, etc. immediately when you hear it. You don't have to search, you know what it is. But that takes practice, practice, practice... Some lucky few are born with it. For most of us, it takes years and years of practice. -- Sue Morton "Frank" <fltech(a)adelphia.net> wrote in message news:e7adnQ0-q4ze9qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d(a)adelphia.com... >I believe you said you have Band in a box, that's what your doing in >there. What's wrong with that, doesn't get much quicker. Of course, sitting >on my couch with my accoustic guitar, playing chords, changing keys is >pretty quick. I do not understand what you are looking for? > Please do not take this the wrong way, but many of your posts have to do > with "quick and easy", etc. Music is not quick and easy. Takes dedication > and PRACTICE. > Frank L > > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message > news:Lfa%g.6573$v43.3376(a)fed1read02... >> >> "Sue Morton" <867-5309(a)domain.invalid> wrote in message >> news:LB3%g.582$s6.313(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... >>> The more you know about music theory, the faster you would be able to do >>> this... but that is not a fast track :-) >>> >>> Quicker than learning theory :-) would be to listen to songs that sound >>> similar to what you want, and improvise on what you hear. >>> -- >>> Sue Morton >>> >>> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message >>> news:ofx_g.6411$v43.2810(a)fed1read02... >>>> Any ideas about how to take an improvised piano part and clone it to a >>>> track with a mono instrument for a kind of accompaniement? Is there a >>>> set of guidelines about counterpoint or practical ideas about which >>>> notes to eliminate without experimenting for a long time? >> >> Thanks for your response. I've got a little knowledge about chords. I >> like know the main ones, the ones that seem to make a real difference in >> sound. I have little knowledge about forms of songs. Like I didn't know >> what a 'bridge' was until you guys explained it to me. >> >> Is there an easy way to just type in chords in some text file and have it >> converted to midi so I can hear what progressions sound like that I don't >> want to spend a lot of time clicking out with a mouse? Maybe that sounds >> lazy but it seems to me that chords are so affected by what is played >> previously that it would be really difficult to know what sounds good or >> especially good and new by trying to do it that slow way. It seems like >> someone could program midi controls to move notes and do quick >> transpositions and pastes from libraries that would speed up the process. >> Maybe that would be a bad thing because of all of the learning and >> individual sacrafice of real musicians but it might make some really >> beautiful music that might not have been ever heard. I find myself >> writing things that will easily be transferred to a musical staff and >> that is limiting, imo. Does that sound arrogant? In any case it is a lot >> of fun, even the painstaking times, I could do for a long time without >> getting bored. It's just that other ideas torture me to get out, even >> though they are probably really not very good. >> >> > > > |