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From: Donk on 5 Apr 2008 22:40
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:25:56 GMT, "Steve L." <email(a)myeamail.com>
wrote:

>Donk <don81846(a)verizon.netnot.valid> thought it was ok to ask
>
>> Realtek High Definition 8-channel audio, ALC 888S chipset
>>THis is likely the culprit.
>
>If your input monitoring you want low latency. Did you try ajusting
>the latency in Sonar? Probably want it down around 3-10ms if possible.
>and it may not be possible with that sound device
>Also check to make sure your not monitoring woth the soundcard software
>(ie: what you hear settng)
>It almost sounds like you have a loop in the midi somewhere. make sure
>your only going out from your keyboard. you should only need one cable.
> What would really help you is to get a better sound card (Maudio 1296)
>for about a hundred bucks. It has 2 ins and outs.. spdif.... midi in and
>out some other stuff..
>Even if it doesn't cure your problem you'll have much better sound.

Hi Steve,

Ya, not having any luck with anything. I think you're probably right
about the sound card. I've thought about pulling a Soundblaster16 card
out of an old computer and plugging it in this machine to see if
there's a Vista driver that works with it.

I'd like to isolate the problem as either sound card or keyboard
rather than wind up buying both. Something that may be a clue: I've
got a bunch of mid files that played great through my old
Win98/SB16/Cakewalk machine with the PSR-510. Some of them play OK
with the Vista/Sonar machine but some do not. They play for a bit and
then it sounds like someone is standing on all 61 keys. Not a pleasant
sound. :(

Maybe I'll do a quick Google to see what I find.

Thank you,

Don
From: Donk on 5 Apr 2008 23:45

Hi Sue,

I hope you don't mind if I ask you "TWO" questions. <g>

1. Did you have to disable your onboard Realtek?

2. I can play complex, pre-recorded mid files through my keyboard with
Sonar and they sound great. Why can't I play even one c-chord? I'm
sure there's a reason that I don't yet understand.

Thank you,

Don

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:32:17 -0700, "Sue Morton"
<867-5309(a)domain.invalid> wrote:

>Yes I have this same onboard sound module, it sounds pretty good but latency
>is poor even on XP with WDM. You'll need a regulard soundcard to achieve a
>lower latency.
>
>A thread was started here recently for soundcard recommendations, see that
>thread for more info.
>
>My opinion:
>
>Any of the M-Audio or Echo Audio cards are good choices. Some folk are
>using E-Mu cards with success. A few are using Soundblaster Audigy cards
>but not if they need low latency (most will move up to a "prosumer" card
>sooner or later. The Audigy is a nice sounding card but the Creative Labs
>drivers are very poor.)
From: Donk on 5 Apr 2008 23:47

Is this the one you're referring to?

http://www.guitarcenter.com/M-Audio-Audiophile-2496-PCI-Digital-Audio-Card-701341-i1154070.gc

Thank you,

Don


On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:25:56 GMT, "Steve L." <email(a)myeamail.com>
wrote:

>Donk <don81846(a)verizon.netnot.valid> thought it was ok to ask
>
>> Realtek High Definition 8-channel audio, ALC 888S chipset
>>THis is likely the culprit.
>

> What would really help you is to get a better sound card (Maudio 1296)
>for about a hundred bucks. It has 2 ins and outs.. spdif.... midi in and
>out some other stuff..
From: Sue Morton on 6 Apr 2008 00:38
The Realtek is still working fine, side-by-side with my soundcard (a
LynxONE) in that computer. It's useful for YouTube and other internet audio
stuff, audio/video attachments in email, etc. There is nothing wrong with
the sound quality of the Realtek for desktop computer audio, in my opinion.
It just won't perform when it comes to latency and fast buffering needed for
monitoring in realtime.

For question #2, sorry I haven't been following this thread in detail other
than I know Ricky and Steve L. are trying to help you sort it out.
--
Sue Morton

Donk wrote:
> Hi Sue,
>
> I hope you don't mind if I ask you "TWO" questions. <g>
>
> 1. Did you have to disable your onboard Realtek?
>
> 2. I can play complex, pre-recorded mid files through my keyboard with
> Sonar and they sound great. Why can't I play even one c-chord? I'm
> sure there's a reason that I don't yet understand.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Don
>
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:32:17 -0700, "Sue Morton"
> <867-5309(a)domain.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Yes I have this same onboard sound module, it sounds pretty good but
>> latency is poor even on XP with WDM. You'll need a regulard
>> soundcard to achieve a lower latency.
>>
>> A thread was started here recently for soundcard recommendations,
>> see that thread for more info.
>>
>> My opinion:
>>
>> Any of the M-Audio or Echo Audio cards are good choices. Some folk
>> are using E-Mu cards with success. A few are using Soundblaster
>> Audigy cards but not if they need low latency (most will move up to
>> a "prosumer" card sooner or later. The Audigy is a nice sounding
>> card but the Creative Labs drivers are very poor.)


From: Sue Morton on 6 Apr 2008 00:17
That's a good card. I have the 192 version and like it a lot.
--
Sue Morton

Donk wrote:
> Is this the one you're referring to?
>
> http://www.guitarcenter.com/M-Audio-Audiophile-2496-PCI-Digital-Audio-Card-701341-i1154070.gc
>
> Thank you,
>
> Don
>
>
> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:25:56 GMT, "Steve L." <email(a)myeamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Donk <don81846(a)verizon.netnot.valid> thought it was ok to ask
>>
>>> Realtek High Definition 8-channel audio, ALC 888S chipset
>>> THis is likely the culprit.
>>
>
>> What would really help you is to get a better sound card (Maudio
>> 1296) for about a hundred bucks. It has 2 ins and outs.. spdif....
>> midi in and out some other stuff..



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