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From: Linus Torvalds on 28 May 2010 10:40


On Fri, 28 May 2010, Peter Hutterer wrote:
>
> Default behaviour is tapping on for no-button touchpads (like the ones on
> the apples) and tapping off for everything else.

It may well be a good default when the buttons are physically separate
(like on a lot of touchpads). But when the bottom of the touchpad itself
is the button (ie the touchpad has a rocker, and you have to press down on
the touchpad itself), the buttons technically _exist_, but they are
basically useless.

That Dell machine got a lot of bad reviews for its horribe touchpad, and I
used to not understand why people disliked the touchpad so much - it
didn't feel horrible to me. But now I wonder if Windows has the same
logic, and reviewers - like me - hadn't realized to enable the tap
feature.

Linus
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From: Bastien Nocera on 28 May 2010 11:10
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 07:28 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> >
> > Default behaviour is tapping on for no-button touchpads (like the ones on
> > the apples) and tapping off for everything else.
>
> It may well be a good default when the buttons are physically separate
> (like on a lot of touchpads). But when the bottom of the touchpad itself
> is the button (ie the touchpad has a rocker, and you have to press down on
> the touchpad itself), the buttons technically _exist_, but they are
> basically useless.

I had one of those machines, and yes, the touchpad is horrible :)

> That Dell machine got a lot of bad reviews for its horribe touchpad, and I
> used to not understand why people disliked the touchpad so much - it
> didn't feel horrible to me. But now I wonder if Windows has the same
> logic, and reviewers - like me - hadn't realized to enable the tap
> feature.

On windows, it's basically as horrible as you suggested if you don't
install the elantech drivers.

For the default GNOME configuration, we could certainly switch it again,
but we would break people with older laptops.

Seeing as we already know if there's physical buttons, we would just
need to know whether the physical buttons are embedded in the touchpad
like on yours. Then we could make an informed decision about the
defaults.

I'm sure that Peter would love the challenge of exporting that to the
desktops :)

Cheers

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