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From: Conor on 3 Jul 2005 17:18 In article <3iqvifFmds12U1(a)individual.net>, Rod Speed says... > And you dont have to fart around with multiple accounts with XP, you do with 2K. > Err, that's why Windows XP boxen are owned within 30 seconds of hooking up to the internet. -- Conor -You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)
From: Some Guy on 3 Jul 2005 17:15 David Maynard wrote: > > The fact of the matter is that the main benefit of TCP/IP is > > that it's routable.. > > Ain't no 'little' thing. ------------- NetBEUI (NetBIOS Extended User Interface) is a new, extended version of NetBIOS lets computers communicate within a local area network. NetBEUI is the best performance choice for communication within a single LAN. It does not support the routing of messages to other networks. It is recommended to install both NetBEUI and TCP/IP in each computer and set the server up to use NetBEUI for communication within the LAN and TCP/IP for communication beyond the LAN. http://cob.bloomu.edu/afundaburk/personal/NBEA%20-%20Let's%20Go%20Wireless%20Presentation.ppt ----------- Look people. Microsoft has a single over-riding agenda - to make money (like most corporations). However, their main product (desktop OS's) aren't like most consumer goods (ie like a car). How do you know when an OS is "worn out" ? Well, for Microsoft (which is really (in the real world) the only game in town when it comes to OS's) they can call the shots to some degree by forcing the obselence of older os's by forcing certain new technologies into the market (the migration from Win-95 to Win-98 was coaxed by such things as USB and FAT-32). This is really just another way to say that a good deal of the claimed differences between different versions of Windows is marketing bullshit designed to instill a degree of psycological bias against the older OS. It creates a notion that the older OS is "worn out" in an almost physical way. The other aspect of what Microsoft does is to gear Windows first and formost towards their best paying customer - that being large corporations (and the gov't). They want work-station security, they want (need) routable protocals, they want remote administration capability, they want permission-based user hirarchies. So Windows (2K and XP) comes "out of the box" with all sorts of services and ports configured as active by default. Which leads to the next point: Microsoft values reducing the need for customer support far more than workstation security. The default settings for 2K and XP are set to be most appropriate for a large corporation (with IT staff and fire-wall). For the small company or home user, XP is (and was) a disaster in terms of viral and trojan infections. What's this got to do with NetBEUI vs TCP/IP? It's Microsoft's "keep it simple stupid" mentality. If TCP will work everywhere on a network (large, small, across routers, etc) then it becomes the default protocal and bye bye NetBEUI. It will mean fewer support calls for MS from fortune 500 companies. It doesn't mean NetBEUI is bad or inferior (it seems it may have a performance edge on small networks vs TCP, and it certainly has a security edge over TCP). It just means MS made a decision motivated by making their life simpler. I'm sure a big part of it was to force some degree of incompatibility between exiting networks (with NT4 servers) which would force those systems into the garbage in favor of XP-pro. It's funny how jaded we all pretty much are towards Microsoft the corporate pirahna fish that they are, how they use strong-arm tactics to kill competition, yet we let their mantra of OS obselescence sink into our heads exactly according to their plan. > Remove it and you've got an antiquated, severely limited, > protocol. As if TCP/IP isin't "antiquated".
From: kony on 3 Jul 2005 18:48 On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:15:11 -0400, Some Guy <Some(a)Guy.com> wrote: >David Maynard wrote: > >> > The fact of the matter is that the main benefit of TCP/IP is >> > that it's routable.. >> >> Ain't no 'little' thing. > >------------- >NetBEUI (NetBIOS Extended User Interface) is a new, extended >version of NetBIOS lets computers communicate within a local >area network. NetBEUI is the best performance choice for >communication within a single LAN. It does not support the >routing of messages to other networks. It is recommended to >install both NetBEUI and TCP/IP in each computer and set the >server up to use NetBEUI for communication within the LAN and >TCP/IP for communication beyond the LAN. > >http://cob.bloomu.edu/afundaburk/personal/NBEA%20-%20Let's%20Go%20Wireless%20Presentation.ppt >----------- > >Look people. > >Microsoft has a single over-riding agenda - to make money (like most >corporations). However, their main product (desktop OS's) aren't like >most consumer goods (ie like a car). How do you know when an OS is >"worn out" ? Well, for Microsoft (which is really (in the real world) >the only game in town when it comes to OS's) they can call the shots >to some degree by forcing the obselence of older os's by forcing >certain new technologies into the market (the migration from Win-95 to >Win-98 was coaxed by such things as USB and FAT-32). > >This is really just another way to say that a good deal of the claimed >differences between different versions of Windows is marketing >bullshit designed to instill a degree of psycological bias against the >older OS. It creates a notion that the older OS is "worn out" in an >almost physical way. > >The other aspect of what Microsoft does is to gear Windows first and >formost towards their best paying customer - that being large >corporations (and the gov't). They want work-station security, they >want (need) routable protocals, they want remote administration >capability, they want permission-based user hirarchies. So Windows >(2K and XP) comes "out of the box" with all sorts of services and >ports configured as active by default. Which leads to the next point: > >Microsoft values reducing the need for customer support far more than >workstation security. The default settings for 2K and XP are set to >be most appropriate for a large corporation (with IT staff and >fire-wall). For the small company or home user, XP is (and was) a >disaster in terms of viral and trojan infections. > >What's this got to do with NetBEUI vs TCP/IP? > >It's Microsoft's "keep it simple stupid" mentality. If TCP will work >everywhere on a network (large, small, across routers, etc) then it >becomes the default protocal and bye bye NetBEUI. It will mean fewer >support calls for MS from fortune 500 companies. It doesn't mean >NetBEUI is bad or inferior (it seems it may have a performance edge on >small networks vs TCP, and it certainly has a security edge over >TCP). It just means MS made a decision motivated by making their life >simpler. I'm sure a big part of it was to force some degree of >incompatibility between exiting networks (with NT4 servers) which >would force those systems into the garbage in favor of XP-pro. > >It's funny how jaded we all pretty much are towards Microsoft the >corporate pirahna fish that they are, how they use strong-arm tactics >to kill competition, yet we let their mantra of OS obselescence sink >into our heads exactly according to their plan. > >> Remove it and you've got an antiquated, severely limited, >> protocol. > >As if TCP/IP isin't "antiquated". OH MY. Nice post. Mr. Maynard is going to be busy for the next week with this one.
From: Rod Speed on 3 Jul 2005 19:00 Conor <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1d3266934fe56c5898a215(a)news.individual.net... > Rod Speed wrote >> And you dont have to fart around with multiple accounts with XP, you do with >> 2K. > Err, that's why Windows XP boxen are owned > within 30 seconds of hooking up to the internet. Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasys.
From: DaveW on 3 Jul 2005 19:22
At least ONE of the computers has to have a CD-Rom drive to start the installation on the network. -- DaveW "Bandul" <ivan.curac(a)du.htnet.hr> wrote in message news:da5i0p$jod$1(a)bagan.srce.hr... > I've got 10 problems. > I bought 10 computers recent. Comp dont have a cd/dvd-rom. I must install > win xp pro on every one. > Can i do that over a network.( got switch) or someting else. > Thanks. > > |