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From: kony on 4 Jul 2005 03:36 On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:34:59 -0500, David Maynard <nospam(a)private.net> wrote: >> so are any concerns that conflict >> with MS's wallet. After all, we're only paying customers. > >Why is it that people who want things for 'free' get incensed when the >other party is concerned with their wallet too? Did you overlook those last two words I wrote?
From: kony on 4 Jul 2005 04:07 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:06:22 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed(a)yahoo.com> wrote: <snip> >Anyone with a clue realises that those didnt even install it by default. You bring up a very important point- we're all just hamster's running on the MS treadmill, we do not choose what to do with our PCs, only to use the defaults and click every time an "OK/Cancel" button pops up. At least, that seems to be your argument if you think that 'wasn't installed by default' matters at all.
From: David Maynard on 4 Jul 2005 04:08 Some Guy wrote: > I suspect that Macro$oft discovered some degree of incompatibility or > instability with NetBeui on XP Amazing how they 'discovered' that over 7 years ago when they announced, prior to Windows 98, that Netbeui would be going away so start making plans to do without it. > - plenty of evidence on the net that > such instability exists, and some work-arounds (like using some files > from Win-2K) have been suggested. M$'s corporate direction of > embracing the internet (after first dismissing it in the mid 1990's) > meant that TCP/IP took on more importance over NetBeui (I'm sure they > gritted their teeth at the realization that they couldn't force their > own protocal on the internet). Except it's an IBM protocol, developed for them by Sytec Inc, for token ring. It [Netbios followed by Netbeui] was created at a time when small stand-alone networks were still rather common but, in case you hadn't noticed, to find even a two computer home network that isn't internet connected is extremely rare. And the esoteric 'speed advantage', assuming one could manage to notice it, is all but erased when running multiple protocols; and the 'small size [netbios] so it fits well into DOS 640K' is meaningless to modern machines. > With the introduction of XP, M$ knew it would face some raised > eyebrows with the official "non-support" of NetBeui, You mean among people who never read announcements? > so they began a > propaganda smear campaign against it, as this blurb of theirs > indicates: > > ------------- > Support for the NetBEUI network protocol has been discontinued in > Windows XP. This protocol is not available to install in Windows XP. > The NetBEUI protocol was developed in 1985. It is used by network > operating systems such as Microsoft LAN Manager, Microsoft Windows for > Workgroups, Microsoft Windows 95, and Microsoft Windows NT. The > NetBEUI protocol implements the OSI LLC2 protocol, and is a > non-routable protocol. > ------------ And where's the "smear?" > Interesting that they somehow fail to mention that Windows 98 and > Windows 2000 also included NetBeui as a supported protocal. Hell - > who want's to associate themselves with the likes of WFWG or Win-95? > Yech! It was provided as backward support, not a recommended protocol, and anyone who reads announcements knew it was going away. <snip of more paranoid delusions and conspiracy theories>
From: David Maynard on 4 Jul 2005 04:20 kony wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:34:59 -0500, David Maynard > <nospam(a)private.net> wrote: > > > >>>so are any concerns that conflict >>>with MS's wallet. After all, we're only paying customers. >> >>Why is it that people who want things for 'free' get incensed when the >>other party is concerned with their wallet too? > > > Did you overlook those last two words I wrote? No. You didn't 'pay' for what isn't offered. But it is interesting that you kept claiming 'support' was 'free' while simultaneously accusing them of dropping it to save money.
From: David Maynard on 4 Jul 2005 04:30
kony wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:06:22 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod_speed(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > <snip> > >>Anyone with a clue realises that those didnt even install it by default. > > > > You bring up a very important point- we're all just > hamster's running on the MS treadmill, we do not choose what > to do with our PCs, only to use the defaults and click every > time an "OK/Cancel" button pops up. > > At least, that seems to be your argument if you think that > 'wasn't installed by default' matters at all. No. The point is it's de facto evidence that Netbeui hasn't been a preferred or recommended protocol for ages. |