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From: Paul Thompson on 4 May 2008 13:09
Paul J Gans wrote:
> "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ :)" <boobooililililil(a)roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> Paul Thompson wrote:
>>> I just got a Vista notebook with 2 120G SATA drives. Vista reports 3
>>> drives, the OS on C:, Data D:, and HP RECOVERY E:. I'd like to install
>>> OpenSuSE 10.3 on 60G of drive D:.
>>>
>>> How should I go about setting up the partitions during installation?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Paul
>
>> Let OpenSUSE decide and resize the partitions it wants. I would delete
>> d: and e: and let OpenSUSE use the unformatted space. But that is just me.
>
> WHOA!
>
> The "recovery" partition might well be the only Vista backup
> Thompson has. There may be no separate DVD.
>
> Yes, I think that is stupid on the part of the notebook manufacturers,
> but hey...
>
> And I'd not blow D: away either until I knew what was on it.
>
> The openSUSE recommendation probably takes all this into account.
> I'd use that, at least until I knew more about D: and E:.
>

I'm glad I waited to hear from you folks! I was about to reformat D:
(Data, sdb) and use it but I want to maintain Vista for such things as
games, web sites needing Windows Media, etc. E: is in sda and is for
recovery.

First YaST wanted to take a large part of C: (OS, sda) and that might of
crippled Vista. I could then select sdb but that would lose Vista's data
directory.

What I'd like to do is take most of D: for Linux and leave enough to
keep Vista happy. What is the procedure for doing that?

Thanks
Paul
From: Paul Thompson on 6 May 2008 21:39
Paul Thompson wrote:
> I just got a Vista notebook with 2 120G SATA drives. Vista reports 3
> drives, the OS on C:, Data D:, and HP RECOVERY E:. I'd like to install
> OpenSuSE 10.3 on 60G of drive D:.
>
> How should I go about setting up the partitions during installation?
>
> Thanks
> Paul

Thanks for all the good advice. Here's what I ended up doing. I moved
the drive D: folders to C:, and then used Vista administrative tools to
delete drive D:. I was then able to reformat D: as ext3 and install
SuSE. So far both systems seem to be working OK.

I had to load the latest ALSA driver, and in addition I'm manually
running modprobe each time the system starts in order to get sound to
work. Yast-Hardware-Sound fails to configure sound, but alsaconf can,
temporarily. I had this same problem with another notebook that worked
with 10.2 but not 10.3.

Also Grub's menu.lst had an error - (hd1,0) instead of (hd0,0) for
Vista. I had seen this bug before and manually fixed it.

Finally I want to see if I can get the built in SM56 modem to work.

Paul
From: Darrell Stec on 5 May 2008 05:23
MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org wrote:

> On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:01:45 -0400, Darrell Stec
> <darrell_stec(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
>
>>Paul J Gans wrote:
>>
>>> "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ :)" <boobooililililil(a)roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>>>Paul Thompson wrote:
>>>>> I just got a Vista notebook with 2 120G SATA drives. Vista reports 3
>>>>> drives, the OS on C:, Data D:, and HP RECOVERY E:. I'd like to install
>>>>> OpenSuSE 10.3 on 60G of drive D:.
>>>>>
>>>>> How should I go about setting up the partitions during installation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Paul
>>>
>>>>Let OpenSUSE decide and resize the partitions it wants. I would delete
>>>>d: and e: and let OpenSUSE use the unformatted space. But that is just
>>>>me.
>>>
>>> WHOA!
>>>
>>> The "recovery" partition might well be the only Vista backup
>>> Thompson has. There may be no separate DVD.
>>>
>>> Yes, I think that is stupid on the part of the notebook manufacturers,
>>> but hey...
>>>
>>> And I'd not blow D: away either until I knew what was on it.
>>>
>>> The openSUSE recommendation probably takes all this into account.
>>> I'd use that, at least until I knew more about D: and E:.
>>>
>>
>>You are right about the recovery partition although the first step of
>>every new computer after plugging it in should be to use the installed
>>back up program to make a copy of the recovery partition.
>>
>>Also by deleting the Data partition, an unexperienced user will be
>>breaking their Vista installation because Vista programs insist on
>>splitting the
>>data from the programs. That way if one has to recover the OS, the data
>>is safe and secure, unlike past recovery systems when it was an all or
>>nothing proposition and the recovery process would reformat the entire C
>>drive and re-install the software just like the day you bought the
>>computer.
>
>
> That is total bullshit.
>
> There is NO dual partition requirement for Vista, you stupid twit.

Oh god, the 14 year old as nymshifted again. And yes, Vista does divide the
OS and program files from the data files, and adds a third partion on many
computers. Try Acer, eMachine, Gateway, Compaq and HP and using your
advice you will screw things up. Don't bother replying as I'll plonk you
again.

Go back to playing your games on your PS3 if mommy and daddy will let you
during school days.

--
Later,
Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com

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From: Chris Ward on 5 May 2008 14:56
On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:09:15 -0500, Paul Thompson wrote:

> Paul J Gans wrote:
>> "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ :)" <boobooililililil(a)roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>> Paul Thompson wrote:
>>>> I just got a Vista notebook with 2 120G SATA drives. Vista reports 3
>>>> drives, the OS on C:, Data D:, and HP RECOVERY E:. I'd like to
>>>> install OpenSuSE 10.3 on 60G of drive D:.
>>>>
>>>> How should I go about setting up the partitions during installation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Paul
>>
>>> Let OpenSUSE decide and resize the partitions it wants. I would
>>> delete d: and e: and let OpenSUSE use the unformatted space. But that
>>> is just me.
>>
>> WHOA!
>>
>> The "recovery" partition might well be the only Vista backup Thompson
>> has. There may be no separate DVD.
>>
>> Yes, I think that is stupid on the part of the notebook manufacturers,
>> but hey...
>>
>> And I'd not blow D: away either until I knew what was on it.
>>
>> The openSUSE recommendation probably takes all this into account. I'd
>> use that, at least until I knew more about D: and E:.
>>
>>
> I'm glad I waited to hear from you folks! I was about to reformat D:
> (Data, sdb) and use it but I want to maintain Vista for such things as
> games, web sites needing Windows Media, etc. E: is in sda and is for
> recovery.
>
> First YaST wanted to take a large part of C: (OS, sda) and that might of
> crippled Vista. I could then select sdb but that would lose Vista's data
> directory.
>
> What I'd like to do is take most of D: for Linux and leave enough to
> keep Vista happy. What is the procedure for doing that?
>
> Thanks
> Paul

I had a similar decision to make recently, though with a desktop. Vista
has a built-in re-partitioning tool that is perfectly usable. I
defragged the drive containing Windows, re-sized it, and then created
another partition. Can't remember now whether I made it an extended
partition under Windows with some logical partitions (swap, root, home)
or did that later when installing SUSE.
From: Will Honea on 6 May 2008 01:29
Chris Ward wrote:

> On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:09:15 -0500, Paul Thompson wrote:
>
>> Paul J Gans wrote:
>>> "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ :)" <boobooililililil(a)roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>>> Paul Thompson wrote:
>>>>> I just got a Vista notebook with 2 120G SATA drives. Vista reports 3
>>>>> drives, the OS on C:, Data D:, and HP RECOVERY E:. I'd like to
>>>>> install OpenSuSE 10.3 on 60G of drive D:.
>>>>>
>>>>> How should I go about setting up the partitions during installation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Paul
>>>
>>>> Let OpenSUSE decide and resize the partitions it wants. I would
>>>> delete d: and e: and let OpenSUSE use the unformatted space. But that
>>>> is just me.
>>>
>>> WHOA!
>>>
>>> The "recovery" partition might well be the only Vista backup Thompson
>>> has. There may be no separate DVD.
>>>
>>> Yes, I think that is stupid on the part of the notebook manufacturers,
>>> but hey...
>>>
>>> And I'd not blow D: away either until I knew what was on it.
>>>
>>> The openSUSE recommendation probably takes all this into account. I'd
>>> use that, at least until I knew more about D: and E:.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm glad I waited to hear from you folks! I was about to reformat D:
>> (Data, sdb) and use it but I want to maintain Vista for such things as
>> games, web sites needing Windows Media, etc. E: is in sda and is for
>> recovery.
>>
>> First YaST wanted to take a large part of C: (OS, sda) and that might of
>> crippled Vista. I could then select sdb but that would lose Vista's data
>> directory.
>>
>> What I'd like to do is take most of D: for Linux and leave enough to
>> keep Vista happy. What is the procedure for doing that?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paul
>
> I had a similar decision to make recently, though with a desktop. Vista
> has a built-in re-partitioning tool that is perfectly usable. I
> defragged the drive containing Windows, re-sized it, and then created
> another partition. Can't remember now whether I made it an extended
> partition under Windows with some logical partitions (swap, root, home)
> or did that later when installing SUSE.

The only problem with using ANY re-partitioning tool is that about the best
you can do is shrink the Vista partition (same holds true for XP and W2K as
well on NTFS) by about 50% and that's only if you make sure you defrag the
Win partition, then set the page file size to zero and reboot before you
resize it. Don't forget to re-enable the pagefile when done <g>.

There are also additional recovery tools on most vendor sites. Lenovo has
some very good ones for Vista as well as older versions of Win.

Once you get the Win partition cleaned up, the Vista re-size works well
although like I said you can only shrink the blasted Win partition by
roughly 50% which sucks big time on a 250GB drive!

--
Will Honea
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