From: Gerry_uk on
Hi,

I'm experiencing problems with Intel Core 2 E6800 temperatures on my
ASUS mainboard, but part of the problem is I don't even know if the
values I'm seeing reported on screen are correct or not!

I've created a quick web page with a screen shot and details here

<http://www.xp20.dircon.co.uk/hardware/>

Does these readings make sense?

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Gerry_uk
From: Fred on
Gerry_uk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm experiencing problems with Intel Core 2 E6800 temperatures on my
> ASUS mainboard, but part of the problem is I don't even know if the
> values I'm seeing reported on screen are correct or not!
>
> I've created a quick web page with a screen shot and details here
>
> <http://www.xp20.dircon.co.uk/hardware/>
>
> Does these readings make sense?

Well from what I understand the core 2 duo cpu's have an old style sensor
diode under the integrated heat spreader (The BIOS uses that for temp
measurement) and 2 digital sensors one above each core.
It's not uncommon for the measurements taken from the diode and core sensors
to vary.
Intel also provide a utility to access the core sensors and apply some
stress testing.
Available for download here
http://anonforums.com/builds/TAT.zip
HTH


From: Phil on
Looking at those temps, I'm inclined to think that the Probe II reading is
not to be trusted. As for the CoteTemp readings, they're a bit high if those
readings were taken at idle. I would re-check that the heatsink is properly
mated to the motherboard, and making good contact with the CPU heatspreader.
In any case, a good aftermarket cooler (with artic silver 5) is a much
better cooling solution than the stock HSF.

-phil


"Fred" <bluser(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4n51k0F8li45U1(a)individual.net...
> Gerry_uk wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm experiencing problems with Intel Core 2 E6800 temperatures on my
>> ASUS mainboard, but part of the problem is I don't even know if the
>> values I'm seeing reported on screen are correct or not!
>>
>> I've created a quick web page with a screen shot and details here
>>
>> <http://www.xp20.dircon.co.uk/hardware/>
>>
>> Does these readings make sense?
>
> Well from what I understand the core 2 duo cpu's have an old style sensor
> diode under the integrated heat spreader (The BIOS uses that for temp
> measurement) and 2 digital sensors one above each core.
> It's not uncommon for the measurements taken from the diode and core
> sensors to vary.
> Intel also provide a utility to access the core sensors and apply some
> stress testing.
> Available for download here
> http://anonforums.com/builds/TAT.zip
> HTH
>


From: Gerry_uk on
Hi Phil,

> Looking at those temps, I'm inclined to think that the Probe II reading is
> not to be trusted.

This is the strange thing; the recent BIOS update I applied to this
board states that it's purpose is to provide more accurate temparature
readings. The old BIOS gave lower readings.

> As for the CoteTemp readings, they're a bit high if those
> readings were taken at idle.

Yes it was Idle for two hours.

> I would re-check that the heatsink is properly
> mated to the motherboard, and making good contact with the CPU heatspreader.
> In any case, a good aftermarket cooler (with artic silver 5) is a much
> better cooling solution than the stock HSF.

Yup, this is exactly what I tried to do and failed:(

Here's the ASUS readings as I went along:

Intel cooler, old ASUS BIOS [CPU 50 idle, 60 load]
Intel cooler, new ASUS BIOS [CPU 55 idle, 65 load]
Zalman cooler, new ASUS BIOS [CPU 61 idle, 62 load]

I originally thought the problem was either the Intel cooler is no good
or the thermal contact between CPU and heatsink was flawed. I took off
the Intel cooler and the thermal compound was all squashed down BUT it
had some small holes in it, as if there wasn't enough.

I assumed this was the problem and got the Zalman cooler and the Actic
Silver 5. I took out the whole MB, reseated the CPU, cleaned everything
and let dry. Put quite a lot of Actic 5 on the CPU, bolted down the
Zalman, then used a torch to look at the connection. Everything looks
flat and some compound has squashed out the sides.

I put everything back assuming it was all fixed now, and total
disappointment as I see the idle temp is WORSE than before!

I note the Zalman heatsink is COLD. Could it be the junction is still
flawed?

What I did next was disconnect the CPU fan and power up again. This time
the heatsink became extremely hot, extremely quickly, so to me it seems
the heat transfer _is_ occurring?

I'm out of ideas:(

--
Gerry_uk
From: Gerry_uk on
Fred wrote:

> Intel also provide a utility to access the core sensors and apply some
> stress testing.
> Available for download here
> http://anonforums.com/builds/TAT.zip
> HTH

Thanks Fred, I'd like to try this, but "anonforums" doesn't sound like
Intel! Do Intel have a link to it?

--
Gerry_uk
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