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From: Darrell Stec on 6 May 2008 17:40 houghi wrote: > Darrell Stec wrote: >> But that is the whole point. They already purchased Windows once with >> the machine, just like I did with mine. > > That is not always the case. Also that is a Windows problem, so they > should solve that in a Windows group. > I am specifically talking about situations where that is the case. Where the machine comes with Windows preloaded on a recovery partition that is often invoked by the BIOS. On these types of machines (and more and more of them are being sold that way), you already paid for Windows because you cannot get that machine for less without an operating system namely Windows. What would any of those Windows groups know about Linux virtual machines? >> So yes Windows can be purchased but with a VM it gets bought twice. > > No. I got Windows (Vista, I think) with my latetst portable and 3.1 with > my 386. I bought Win95 (first edition) and except these two systems, > none of them included any Windows. > But did it come preinstalled on your system with a recovery system that totally wipes out C drive and all data? Many if not most retail stores sell their computers that way now days. >> But doesn't Windows have to be installed on the Linux partition or are >> you saying that with a dual boot setup, a virtual machine talks to the >> Windows partition from the Linux partition? > > No. A virtual machine talks to nothing. There are some exceptions, like > the disc player if you so desire. What it does is it makes a file. This > file can be seen on your instalation as someting that is e.g. 8GB large. > You can not do anything with it. > And how does this file address Windows? Don't you have to install Windows AFTER you set up the virtual machine? If it runs Windows then it "talks" to Windows or interacts with Windows. Or does it run the original Windows (drive C) that is already set up on your dual booting drive? > When you start the virtal manager it emulates to be a computer that > starts up with its own bios and it own empty HD. This won't boot, just > as it won't boot when you have an empty PC. > > You can then let it boot from floppy or cd/dvd (real or image) and > install the OS of your choice. > > houghi I have a strong feeling than neither you nor Vahis has used a computer like Acer, HP or Compaq where the operating system, WinXP or Vista, is on a separate partition sometimes hidden on some models. If Windows screws up, there is no repair facility. There is a BIOS option to run the recovery proceedure with will delete everything on C drive, reformat it, and reinstall your operating system and all divers and applications that came with your computer. You don't get to pick and choose, and you don't get to expand any files as you could on normal Windows OS CD. Perhaps I am misunderstanding how to use vm, but from what I read, you install vm (Virtual Box for instance) on your Linux partition. Then you install the operating system of your choice such as WinXP. But on my system and most of the new systems in retail stores the computer now comes with recovery program that wipes your drive clean. How can you get the WinXP installed to the Linux virtual machine in this instance? Or does it just address the original C drive on the original partition? -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
From: Vahis on 6 May 2008 00:51 On 2008-05-05, EOS <heelstraf(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Riberto wrote: > <snip> >> >> Is there a program or a way to adjust any of these popular web browsers >> to emulate Internet Explorer? <snip> > > IE6 on a linux, do in a konsole: > wget http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/downloads/ies4linux-latest.tar.gz > tar zxvf ies4linux-latest.tar.gz > cd ies4linux-* > ./ies4linux > > http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page That was interesting so I did it, but no cigar: ies4linux-2.99.0.1> ./ies4linux No user interface available. Use command-line ies4linux or install pygtk. Details: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/No_GUI Then, that link gives: "There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page." I'm still using VMware :) Vahis -- Training new things here: http://waxborg.servepics.com "The only thing more expensive than training is the lack of it" Henry Ford
From: Joost van der Waa on 6 May 2008 00:40 Riberto wrote: > I have been a Suse Linux user for several years now. > Currently use OpenSuse 10.3 looking forward to 11.0 > > For work I HAVE to use that other stuff cause my Company uses some > programs written for that stuff and we ARE required to use it WITH OUT > messing with it! > > Heck its their money so what can I say!!! > > Recently their glorious IT department made some changes in their website > and I am told we must use Internet Explorer to access these new > features. They are right, I have tried and failed to have full use with > Firefox, Galeon, Konqueror and Opera. > > Is there a program or a way to adjust any of these popular web browsers > to emulate Internet Explorer? > There are times I need to access these sites for WORK and hate to switch > over to the WRONG side of my laptop's partition. > > Your input will be greatly appreciated! > > > Thanks, > Besides all the tips on how to solve your problem, you might consider telling your IT-department that builing IE-only website is building the legacy application of the future. The next version of IE (8) will probably more compliant with the W3C standards, which may also imply that old websites will not work anymore. I know this can be an awful long discussion, but it is worth trying. Success, Joost
From: Michael Soibelman on 6 May 2008 01:28 Vahis wrote: > On 2008-05-05, EOS <heelstraf(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Riberto wrote: >> > <snip> >>> >>> Is there a program or a way to adjust any of these popular web browsers >>> to emulate Internet Explorer? > > <snip> >> >> IE6 on a linux, do in a konsole: >> wget >> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/downloads/ies4linux-latest.tar.gz tar >> zxvf ies4linux-latest.tar.gz cd ies4linux-* >> ./ies4linux >> >> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page > > That was interesting so I did it, but no cigar: > > ies4linux-2.99.0.1> ./ies4linux > No user interface available. Use command-line ies4linux or install > pygtk. Details: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/No_GUI > > Then, that link gives: > > "There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page > title in other pages or edit this page." > > I'm still using VMware :) > > Vahis Install python-gtk (same as pygtk but SUSE names it differently)...
From: Will Honea on 6 May 2008 01:38
Vahis wrote: > Virtual machine gives a disk image to the guest OS who takes it as a disk. > It also provides it with the rest of the virtual hardware. > The guest won't touch the rest of the disk. It does not even know there's > life outside this virtual machine. For my edification, is it a safe assumption that a restore operation would be equally isolated? I have seen both types - the one that only messed with the logical partitions as defined, the other that wanted to re-format the whole bloody physical disk. The exception to the latter case was that every one I tried would leave the hidden partition alone and use that to re-install if necessary but I'm a pessimist and really don't want to chance losing the other partitions so I'd appreciate input from someone that has actually tried the re-install from some of those hard drive resident "sources". -- Will Honea ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |