Internet Explorer emulator?
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From: Vahis on 6 May 2008 07:03 On 2008-05-06, Darrell Stec <darrell_stec(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote: > Vahis wrote: > >> On 2008-05-05, Darrell Stec <darrell_stec(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote: >>> Vahis wrote: >>> >>>> On 2008-05-05, Riberto <riberto(a)ml1.net> wrote: >>>>> I have been a Suse Linux user for several years now. >>>>> Currently use OpenSuse 10.3 looking forward to 11.0 >>>>> >>>>> For work I HAVE to use that other stuff cause my Company uses some >>>>> programs written for that stuff and we ARE required to use it WITH OUT >>>>> messing with it! >>>>> >>>>> Heck its their money so what can I say!!! >>>>> >> <snip> >>>>> Is there a program or a way to adjust any of these popular web browsers >>>>> to emulate Internet Explorer? >>>>> There are times I need to access these sites for WORK and hate to >>>>> switch over to the WRONG side of my laptop's partition. >> <snip> >>>> You can run IE in Linux with wine: >>>> http://www.winehq.org/ >>>> >>>> Or you can run the whole windows in Linux with VMware. >>>> I've made instructions to put it in openSUSE: >>>> >>>> http://waxborg.servepics.com/english/linux/vmware.en.html >>>> >>>> There's also VirtualBox, included in openSUSE which does the same thing. >>>> I've been happy with VMware, so I've got no experience with the latter. >>>> >>>> I'd reckon just for the browser, use Wine :) >>>> >>>> Vahis >>> >>> But that requires that they purchase Winders. >> >> This was a company in question who requires windows IE? >> They don't want Linux? >> So they phey pay? >> >> >>> And none of those virtual >>> machines will work with many modern computers because the manufacturers >>> do not provide Windows disks anymore. >> >> None will work? Where did you get that from? >> >> And sure windowses can be bought. >> > > But that is the whole point. They already purchased Windows once with the > machine, just like I did with mine. The purchase price was built in. When > there are no disks and only an all or nothing recovery partition then > virtual machines are of no use. To use Windows they must purchase a second > copy on disk. All or nothing? What are you talking about? No, they don't need more licences. > > So yes Windows can be purchased but with a VM it gets bought twice. You don't know what you are talking about. > >>> A great many of them have a restoration >>> partition that wipes out the harddrive and restores the computer to its >>> pristine, just bought condition. Even if the VM is free, it is going to >>> cause an outlay of cash for the Winders disks. >> >> Virtual machine gives a disk image to the guest OS who takes it as a disk. >> It also provides it with the rest of the virtual hardware. >> The guest won't touch the rest of the disk. It does not even know there's >> life outside this virtual machine. >> > > But doesn't Windows have to be installed on the Linux partition or are you > saying that with a dual boot setup, a virtual machine talks to the Windows > partition from the Linux partition? > > I didn't think that was the case. You install a virtual machine on the host system and then you install a guest operating system in that virtual machine. For the host system the Virtual machine is a bunch of files and the guest OS installed there thinks it's a real machine. You are obviously confusing two completely different things here. Dual boot has not been mentioned here before now at all. Dual boot is one thing, virtual machine a totally different one. Vahis -- Training new things here: http://waxborg.servepics.com "The only thing more expensive than training is the lack of it" Henry Ford
From: Vahis on 6 May 2008 07:52 On 2008-05-06, houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: > Vahis wrote: >> It sorta works. >> But: Wineserver eats over 40% and explorer eats 40% of CPU so altogether >> over 80%. And it seems to stay up there all the time (idle). >> >> VMware eats like 30% of CPU. It goes up when doing something, but rarely >> over 80%. > > Run then together and your system works at 110% Thanks, that was a good one :) > >> Maybe I'll start playing the other way around, how about installing >> Konqueror in Windows? > > Just rewrite the code. > >> I hear it can be done with Cygwin :) > > What about running a Mac in virtual memory 9in which you can run > Parallels in which you can run Linux in which ... > > houghi Maybe I'll try such "nested virtualization" one day :) I'd like to have a virtual Mac in VMware. I tried it once but couldn't make it work then. It was an image available somewhere. Here's Konqueror for windows: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ Vahis -- Training new things here: http://waxborg.servepics.com "The only thing more expensive than training is the lack of it" Henry Ford
From: Claude Hopper ⑪ ⒌ ☺ on 6 May 2008 07:44 Riberto wrote: > I have been a Suse Linux user for several years now. > Currently use OpenSuse 10.3 looking forward to 11.0 > > For work I HAVE to use that other stuff cause my Company uses some > programs written for that stuff and we ARE required to use it WITH OUT > messing with it! > > Heck its their money so what can I say!!! > > Recently their glorious IT department made some changes in their website > and I am told we must use Internet Explorer to access these new > features. They are right, I have tried and failed to have full use with > Firefox, Galeon, Konqueror and Opera. > > Is there a program or a way to adjust any of these popular web browsers > to emulate Internet Explorer? > There are times I need to access these sites for WORK and hate to switch > over to the WRONG side of my laptop's partition. > > Your input will be greatly appreciated! > > > Thanks, > They working for Microsoft? Or just too stupid to create web pages properly for ALL browsers? -- Claude Hopper :) ☮ ☻ ¥
From: Vahis on 6 May 2008 08:32 On 2008-05-06, houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: > Vahis wrote: >> Maybe I'll try such "nested virtualization" one day :) > > I have had Linux with Parallels running Windows with Parallels runing > Linux. I was too lazy to go on. > > houghi Have you any experience of Mac in a VM? Vahis -- Training new things here: http://waxborg.servepics.com "The only thing more expensive than training is the lack of it" Henry Ford
From: C. (http://symcbean.blogspot.com/) on 6 May 2008 08:38
On May 5, 10:44 pm, jack <jackdd...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Riberto wrote: > > I have been a Suse Linux user for several years now. > > Currently use OpenSuse 10.3 looking forward to 11.0 > > > For work I HAVE to use that other stuff cause my Company uses some > > programs written for that stuff and we ARE required to use it WITH OUT > > messing with it! > > > Heck its their money so what can I say!!! > > > Recently their glorious IT department made some changes in their website > > and I am told we must use Internet Explorer to access these new > > features. They are right, I have tried and failed to have full use with > > Firefox, Galeon, Konqueror and Opera. > > > Is there a program or a way to adjust any of these popular web browsers > > to emulate Internet Explorer? > > There are times I need to access these sites for WORK and hate to switch > > over to the WRONG side of my laptop's partition. > > > Your input will be greatly appreciated! > > > Thanks, > > Before spending money, try this. Open Konqueror web browser, go to > configure, and try setting the browser identification as Internet > Explorer for the company website. If there are no active x tags it > should work. > Jack Only if the application is booby-trapped to reject access based on the user-agent but i otherwise well-written. (A lot of suppliers will only certify for certain platforms). IIRC, Konqueror copes quite happily with the MSIE event model, so does Opera, but javascript specifically (and badly) written for MSIE won't work on Firefox. YMMV with other browsers. Certainly you won't be able to run any activeX components without a full wine build and MSIE (and even then you can expect some pain). C. |