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From: Sebastian Hanigk on 6 May 2008 13:55
comp.unix.solaris(a)expires-on-2008-05-14.usenet.andreas-borchert.de
(Andreas F. Borchert) writes:

> Do you will get the same access level on a x86 architecture? No! Well,
> x86-based servers from Suns come nowadays likewise with a LOM interface
> and they provide even a SSH interface. However, the x86 architecture
> unlike the SPARC platform has no simple console interface but requires
> a graphical VGA-based interface. This cannot be supported through a SSH
> session.

Wrong and wrong. At least on our X4100s the ILOM provides a serial
console which can be accessed via SSH login into the service
processor. And the graphical console (it is horrible, I concede) can be
tunneled via SSH (three ports suffice) - been there, done that, no
T-shirt though.


Sebastian
From: Chris Ridd on 6 May 2008 14:14
On 2008-05-06 18:55:10 +0100, Sebastian Hanigk <hanigk(a)in.tum.de> said:

> comp.unix.solaris(a)expires-on-2008-05-14.usenet.andreas-borchert.de
> (Andreas F. Borchert) writes:
>
>> Do you will get the same access level on a x86 architecture? No! Well,
>> x86-based servers from Suns come nowadays likewise with a LOM interface
>> and they provide even a SSH interface. However, the x86 architecture
>> unlike the SPARC platform has no simple console interface but requires
>> a graphical VGA-based interface. This cannot be supported through a SSH
>> session.
>
> Wrong and wrong. At least on our X4100s the ILOM provides a serial
> console which can be accessed via SSH login into the service
> processor. And the graphical console (it is horrible, I concede) can be
> tunneled via SSH (three ports suffice) - been there, done that, no
> T-shirt though.

Don't EFI-based systems provide support for sophisticated LOMs?

Cheers,

Chris

From: Ivan Marsh on 6 May 2008 14:31
On Tue, 06 May 2008 17:26:49 +0000, Thommy M. wrote:

> pavelj wrote:
>
> And how cool is Linux, really? Hardy Heron hasn't any really new cool
> features. They and stuck with providing minor updates and drivers and
> nothing really cool is coming from there.
>
> The Linux advocates should have a look at OpenSolaris 2008.05

....and you probably shouldn't compare a Linux distro that's targeted at
end-users to Solaris.

I was hoping the Solaris groups wouldn't have all the "my OS is better
than your OS" BS going on.

I just want to learn the OS not pick sides in a holy war.

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From: pavelj on 5 May 2008 03:19
Hi guys.
I've read all the posts so far and I'm amazed.
I work in the telecom industry for several years.
ALL the telecom\cellular\ISP and other companies i know use solaris on
more than 90% of their servers.
Some of you write that many ppl know only Solaris 7\8 and this is
their perception of the Sun's os.
It maybe true for some places. But the picture i see is very
different. Sun has done a good job to push Solaris10.
I also know many startups and and small companies that have moved to
Solaris on x86. Mostly porting from Linux due to performance problems
and scalability. There is no virtualisation method yet that has the
same advantages and almost zero overhead like Zones.
The problem is that few talk about it openly.
I get the feeling that many ppl think that anything else than Linux is
"uncool" for some reason.
Despite what you say, i see a rising of Solaris in the next 3-4 years.
I might even say it will replace Linux in many companies.
You are right, Solaris is dying.
But those are all the Solaris 7/8/9 boxes.
Solaris 10 is rising, it sells more that REDHAT ! And i guess it
haven't even reached 30% of it's commercial potential.

BTW, i use OpenSolaris on my laptop and home PC.
From: Thommy M. on 6 May 2008 15:10
Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 17:26:49 +0000, Thommy M. wrote:
>
>> pavelj wrote:
>>
>> And how cool is Linux, really? Hardy Heron hasn't any really new cool
>> features. They and stuck with providing minor updates and drivers and
>> nothing really cool is coming from there.
>>
>> The Linux advocates should have a look at OpenSolaris 2008.05
>
> ...and you probably shouldn't compare a Linux distro that's targeted at
> end-users to Solaris.

Why not? Where's the big difference? OpenSolaris 2008.05 is really
comparable to Hardy Heron IMHO.

> I was hoping the Solaris groups wouldn't have all the "my OS is better
> than your OS" BS going on.

Well, there are trolls that yoy just can't ignore. Loads of them...

> I just want to learn the OS not pick sides in a holy war.

One must have some fun too... ;-)
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