Jobby's screws [Mac Systems]

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From: Priam on 6 May 2008 17:04

Richard Maine a �crit :
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <fvo75n$826$1(a)registered.motzarella.org>,
>> Priam <priam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
> [flame bait]
>> Jeez, you're reduced to picking tiny, tiny nits. Can't you do better?
>
> I have him killfiled, I suggest others do the same. He's clearly not
> interested in making constructive comments - just in throwing flame
> bait. Giving reasoned responses to such people won't achieve anything.
> Kiilfiles will.

Aren't these facts that I bring up... from MacWorld.com:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.system/browse_thread/thread/c074f3770abb8c1c/c8653a31adf6c19d?lnk=st&q=#c8653a31adf6c19d>

What all of you call facts is what doesn't disturb your brainwashed
tweety brain.

From: Priam on 6 May 2008 16:34

Tom Stiller a �crit :
> In article <timmcn-3D1D26.22543005052008(a)news.iphouse.com>,
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <fvo75n$826$1(a)registered.motzarella.org>,
>> Priam <priam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Gibson a �crit :
>>>
>>>> I tape the screw to the screwdriver, making sure that the tape
>>>> adheres better to the screwdriver than the screw (not hard to do)
>>>> and that enough of the screw threads stick out beyond the tape to
>>>> start the screw into the hole. Once you have a few turns of the
>>>> screw set into the hole, you pull out the screwdriver and remove
>>>> the tape.
>>> On any non-Jobby PC, you don't have to get a torx, tape the screw,
>>> making sure of this and that, you take a plain screwdriver, and drive
>>> the screw. That's it, that's all.
>>>
>>> Screws are a pretty old invention, you know. When Jobby doesn't get
>>> in the way, you don't have to think twice before it works.
>> Jeez, you're reduced to picking tiny, tiny nits. Can't you do better?
>> Or are you tacitly admitting the superiority of Apple products by having
>> to scrape the bottom of the barrel like this? And my iBook is held
>> together with Phillips screws and Allen screws.
>
> I've taken several iBooks apart and never seen an Allen screw. Torx,
> yes, Allen, no.

McNamarad has lots of loose screws. So, once in a while, he adds one to
his Mac, just for fun, and forgets about it.

From: Priam on 6 May 2008 16:47

Jerry Kindall a �crit :
> In article <fvo75n$826$1(a)registered.motzarella.org>, Priam
> <priam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Jim Gibson a �crit :
>>
>>> I tape the screw to the screwdriver, making sure that the tape adheres
>>> better to the screwdriver than the screw (not hard to do) and that
>>> enough of the screw threads stick out beyond the tape to start the
>>> screw into the hole. Once you have a few turns of the screw set into
>>> the hole, you pull out the screwdriver and remove the tape.
>> On any non-Jobby PC, you don't have to get a torx, tape the screw,
>> making sure of this and that, you take a plain screwdriver, and drive
>> the screw. That's it, that's all.
>>
>> Screws are a pretty old invention, you know. When Jobby doesn't get in
>> the way, you don't have to think twice before it works.
>
> Torx screws are widely used in mass-produced devices. According to
> Wikipedia, Compaq uses a lot of Torx screws. They have real advantages
> for a lot of applications. For one thing, you can get them a lot
> tighter without having to bear down to keep the bit in the screw.

Ever notice the hexagonal form of the plain straight slot screws of an
ordinary PC. (Give me a break with Compaq and HP: they're pretty much
the same kind as Jobby.) Well, the hexagonal form will fit exactly in a
1/4 socket. Isn't it amazing.

> One message board thread I ran across after a quick Google refers to
> Torx screws being used in 1971 and 1972 model-year GM vehicles. Every
> self-respecting tinkerer has had a set for years.

I don't own a car and I never had to use a Torx screwdriver in my life.
And I'd personnaly not "reach down into a bit of a cavity to get at
them". Do you really believe Jobby can afford 1/4" more on his screws?

From: Tim McNamara on 5 May 2008 23:54

From: Jerry Kindall on 6 May 2008 00:42

In article <fvo75n$826$1(a)registered.motzarella.org>, Priam
<priam(a)nowhere.com> wrote:

> Jim Gibson a �crit :
>
> > I tape the screw to the screwdriver, making sure that the tape adheres
> > better to the screwdriver than the screw (not hard to do) and that
> > enough of the screw threads stick out beyond the tape to start the
> > screw into the hole. Once you have a few turns of the screw set into
> > the hole, you pull out the screwdriver and remove the tape.
>
> On any non-Jobby PC, you don't have to get a torx, tape the screw,
> making sure of this and that, you take a plain screwdriver, and drive
> the screw. That's it, that's all.
>
> Screws are a pretty old invention, you know. When Jobby doesn't get in
> the way, you don't have to think twice before it works.

Torx screws are widely used in mass-produced devices. According to
Wikipedia, Compaq uses a lot of Torx screws. They have real advantages
for a lot of applications. For one thing, you can get them a lot
tighter without having to bear down to keep the bit in the screw.

One message board thread I ran across after a quick Google refers to
Torx screws being used in 1971 and 1972 model-year GM vehicles. Every
self-respecting tinkerer has had a set for years.

Mine are magnetic, which nicely does away with the tape issue -- though
personally I find Torx screws fall off the bit a lot less often than
Philips ones do.

--
Jerry Kindall, Seattle, WA <http://www.jerrykindall.com/>

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