From: Rob Gaddi on 22 Feb 2010 21:42 On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:13 -0600 "labamba" <spootski_05(a)hotmail.com> wrote: [snip] > So what exactly can I learn that won't require a Master's? For > example, I know I can learn DSP in C as I know both of them. MATLAB > can be self-taught as well. But what about things like DSP > architectures, VHDL, Verilog, etc.? One can only learn some things in > grad school, right? So you know how you were just complaining that the things that you learned as an undergraduate were, while lovely theory, not actually the things that employers wanted? Why would you think that grad school would be any different? You can either go for the terminal masters, which will teach you how to have a master's degree. Or you can go on for the Ph.D, which will primarily teach you how to teach future engineering students to go on for their Ph.Ds. Now I wouldn't want to say that either degree is useless. They do an excellent job at getting you hired for positions that won't accept anyone without an advanced degree. And the economy's so lousy at the moment that, if you can convince someone to pay you to go back to school, it might be a decent place to go hide from the real world for a bit. But unless you're wanting to go on and pursue deep research, any year you spend in school will be less educational than one you spend in the field. -- Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology Email address is currently out of order
From: labamba on 22 Feb 2010 21:43 >>Hi. >> >>I just graduated in December with a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a >>prominent Southern California university. For privacy's sake, I won't >>disclose its name but I will say that its mascot rhymes with "shoo-ins". >>Anyway, while I was there I took classes on a lot of different topics but >>the ones I enjoyed the most were the ones on signal processing (DSP, >>signals and systems, image processing, etc.). >> >>I'd love to get a job in that field but every time I search for DSP >related >>jobs I see several terms in the requirements section that I've never even >>heard of. When I was in college I studied things like FIR filters, IIR >>filters, Z-transforms, sampling, etc. But in these job listings I see >>things like ASIC, FPGA, VHDL, etc. >> >>How can I teach myself these things? I'm taking a few free open courses >at >>MIT on signal processing and I got a few books on college-level DSP >>exercises for MATLAB, but is that enough? I know I saw a few books on DSP >>programming in C. Would that do? >> >>In other words, where should I go if I want to get a DSP related job? Do >I >>have to go to grad school? >> >> >> > Also, where can I find of different DSP-related careers. I know there's audio engineering, digital communications, etc., but what else is there?
From: labamba on 22 Feb 2010 21:51 >>Hi. >> >>I just graduated in December with a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a >>prominent Southern California university. For privacy's sake, I won't >>disclose its name but I will say that its mascot rhymes with "shoo-ins". >>Anyway, while I was there I took classes on a lot of different topics but >>the ones I enjoyed the most were the ones on signal processing (DSP, >>signals and systems, image processing, etc.). >> >>I'd love to get a job in that field but every time I search for DSP >related >>jobs I see several terms in the requirements section that I've never even >>heard of. When I was in college I studied things like FIR filters, IIR >>filters, Z-transforms, sampling, etc. But in these job listings I see >>things like ASIC, FPGA, VHDL, etc. >> >>How can I teach myself these things? I'm taking a few free open courses >at >>MIT on signal processing and I got a few books on college-level DSP >>exercises for MATLAB, but is that enough? I know I saw a few books on DSP >>programming in C. Would that do? >> >>In other words, where should I go if I want to get a DSP related job? Do >I >>have to go to grad school? >> >> Also, which fields in DSP would require me to get a Master's? For example, would I need a Master's to get a job in audio engineering or image processing?
From: Robert Hendarson on 23 Feb 2010 00:16 On Feb 23, 10:12 am, "labamba" <spootski...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > I just graduated in December with a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a > prominent Southern California university. For privacy's sake, I won't > disclose its name but I will say that its mascot rhymes with "shoo-ins". > Anyway, while I was there I took classes on a lot of different topics but > the ones I enjoyed the most were the ones on signal processing (DSP, > signals and systems, image processing, etc.). > > I'd love to get a job in that field but every time I search for DSP related > jobs I see several terms in the requirements section that I've never even > heard of. When I was in college I studied things like FIR filters, IIR > filters, Z-transforms, sampling, etc. But in these job listings I see > things like ASIC, FPGA, VHDL, etc. > > How can I teach myself these things? I'm taking a few free open courses at > MIT on signal processing and I got a few books on college-level DSP > exercises for MATLAB, but is that enough? I know I saw a few books on DSP > programming in C. Would that do? > > In other words, where should I go if I want to get a DSP related job? Do I > have to go to grad school? Forget it. Get a real job in Analogue IC design. Every man and his dog is doing DSP.
From: Tim Wescott on 23 Feb 2010 02:51
Rob Gaddi wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:13 -0600 > "labamba" <spootski_05(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > [snip] > >> So what exactly can I learn that won't require a Master's? For >> example, I know I can learn DSP in C as I know both of them. MATLAB >> can be self-taught as well. But what about things like DSP >> architectures, VHDL, Verilog, etc.? One can only learn some things in >> grad school, right? > > So you know how you were just complaining that the things that you > learned as an undergraduate were, while lovely theory, not actually the > things that employers wanted? Why would you think that grad school > would be any different? > > You can either go for the terminal masters, which will teach you how to > have a master's degree. Or you can go on for the Ph.D, which will > primarily teach you how to teach future engineering students to go on > for their Ph.Ds. > > Now I wouldn't want to say that either degree is useless. They do an > excellent job at getting you hired for positions that won't accept > anyone without an advanced degree. And the economy's so lousy at the > moment that, if you can convince someone to pay you to go back to > school, it might be a decent place to go hide from the real world for a > bit. But unless you're wanting to go on and pursue deep research, any > year you spend in school will be less educational than one you spend in > the field. > I dunno -- I find my self using much of what I learned getting my Master's on a fairly regular basis. But then, I had already decided in large part what I was going to do out of school, and I took classes and aimed my thesis at that target. Being a "turns theory into practice" guy rather than a "randomly fumbles around with cookbook solutions" guy helps, too, I suppose. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com |