From: Rob Gaddi on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:13 -0600
"labamba" <spootski_05(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

> So what exactly can I learn that won't require a Master's? For
> example, I know I can learn DSP in C as I know both of them. MATLAB
> can be self-taught as well. But what about things like DSP
> architectures, VHDL, Verilog, etc.? One can only learn some things in
> grad school, right?

So you know how you were just complaining that the things that you
learned as an undergraduate were, while lovely theory, not actually the
things that employers wanted? Why would you think that grad school
would be any different?

You can either go for the terminal masters, which will teach you how to
have a master's degree. Or you can go on for the Ph.D, which will
primarily teach you how to teach future engineering students to go on
for their Ph.Ds.

Now I wouldn't want to say that either degree is useless. They do an
excellent job at getting you hired for positions that won't accept
anyone without an advanced degree. And the economy's so lousy at the
moment that, if you can convince someone to pay you to go back to
school, it might be a decent place to go hide from the real world for a
bit. But unless you're wanting to go on and pursue deep research, any
year you spend in school will be less educational than one you spend in
the field.

--
Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology
Email address is currently out of order
From: labamba on
>>Hi.
>>
>>I just graduated in December with a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from
a
>>prominent Southern California university. For privacy's sake, I won't
>>disclose its name but I will say that its mascot rhymes with "shoo-ins".
>>Anyway, while I was there I took classes on a lot of different topics
but
>>the ones I enjoyed the most were the ones on signal processing (DSP,
>>signals and systems, image processing, etc.).
>>
>>I'd love to get a job in that field but every time I search for DSP
>related
>>jobs I see several terms in the requirements section that I've never
even
>>heard of. When I was in college I studied things like FIR filters, IIR
>>filters, Z-transforms, sampling, etc. But in these job listings I see
>>things like ASIC, FPGA, VHDL, etc.
>>
>>How can I teach myself these things? I'm taking a few free open courses
>at
>>MIT on signal processing and I got a few books on college-level DSP
>>exercises for MATLAB, but is that enough? I know I saw a few books on
DSP
>>programming in C. Would that do?
>>
>>In other words, where should I go if I want to get a DSP related job? Do
>I
>>have to go to grad school?
>>
>>
>>
>

Also, where can I find of different DSP-related careers. I know there's
audio engineering, digital communications, etc., but what else is there?
From: labamba on
>>Hi.
>>
>>I just graduated in December with a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from
a
>>prominent Southern California university. For privacy's sake, I won't
>>disclose its name but I will say that its mascot rhymes with "shoo-ins".
>>Anyway, while I was there I took classes on a lot of different topics
but
>>the ones I enjoyed the most were the ones on signal processing (DSP,
>>signals and systems, image processing, etc.).
>>
>>I'd love to get a job in that field but every time I search for DSP
>related
>>jobs I see several terms in the requirements section that I've never
even
>>heard of. When I was in college I studied things like FIR filters, IIR
>>filters, Z-transforms, sampling, etc. But in these job listings I see
>>things like ASIC, FPGA, VHDL, etc.
>>
>>How can I teach myself these things? I'm taking a few free open courses
>at
>>MIT on signal processing and I got a few books on college-level DSP
>>exercises for MATLAB, but is that enough? I know I saw a few books on
DSP
>>programming in C. Would that do?
>>
>>In other words, where should I go if I want to get a DSP related job? Do
>I
>>have to go to grad school?
>>
>>

Also, which fields in DSP would require me to get a Master's? For example,
would I need a Master's to get a job in audio engineering or image
processing?
From: Robert Hendarson on
On Feb 23, 10:12 am, "labamba" <spootski...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I just graduated in December with a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a
> prominent Southern California university. For privacy's sake, I won't
> disclose its name but I will say that its mascot rhymes with "shoo-ins".
> Anyway, while I was there I took classes on a lot of different topics but
> the ones I enjoyed the most were the ones on signal processing (DSP,
> signals and systems, image processing, etc.).
>
> I'd love to get a job in that field but every time I search for DSP related
> jobs I see several terms in the requirements section that I've never even
> heard of. When I was in college I studied things like FIR filters, IIR
> filters, Z-transforms, sampling, etc. But in these job listings I see
> things like ASIC, FPGA, VHDL, etc.
>
> How can I teach myself these things? I'm taking a few free open courses at
> MIT on signal processing and I got a few books on college-level DSP
> exercises for MATLAB, but is that enough? I know I saw a few books on DSP
> programming in C. Would that do?
>
> In other words, where should I go if I want to get a DSP related job? Do I
> have to go to grad school?

Forget it. Get a real job in Analogue IC design. Every man and his dog
is doing DSP.

From: Tim Wescott on
Rob Gaddi wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:13 -0600
> "labamba" <spootski_05(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> So what exactly can I learn that won't require a Master's? For
>> example, I know I can learn DSP in C as I know both of them. MATLAB
>> can be self-taught as well. But what about things like DSP
>> architectures, VHDL, Verilog, etc.? One can only learn some things in
>> grad school, right?
>
> So you know how you were just complaining that the things that you
> learned as an undergraduate were, while lovely theory, not actually the
> things that employers wanted? Why would you think that grad school
> would be any different?
>
> You can either go for the terminal masters, which will teach you how to
> have a master's degree. Or you can go on for the Ph.D, which will
> primarily teach you how to teach future engineering students to go on
> for their Ph.Ds.
>
> Now I wouldn't want to say that either degree is useless. They do an
> excellent job at getting you hired for positions that won't accept
> anyone without an advanced degree. And the economy's so lousy at the
> moment that, if you can convince someone to pay you to go back to
> school, it might be a decent place to go hide from the real world for a
> bit. But unless you're wanting to go on and pursue deep research, any
> year you spend in school will be less educational than one you spend in
> the field.
>
I dunno -- I find my self using much of what I learned getting my
Master's on a fairly regular basis. But then, I had already decided in
large part what I was going to do out of school, and I took classes and
aimed my thesis at that target. Being a "turns theory into practice"
guy rather than a "randomly fumbles around with cookbook solutions" guy
helps, too, I suppose.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com