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From: Wes Groleau on 24 Apr 2008 21:41 Used rsync to duplicate user directory onto another Mac. Both run 10.3.9 Mail uses keychain to store passwords. Keychain does not work on the copy, meaning user has to constantly re-enter password when sending or reading mail. Suspect Keychain is storing some critical bit of data outside the user's directory. ??? -- Wes Groleau After the christening of his baby brother in church, Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the car. His father asked him three times what was wrong. Finally, the boy replied, "That preacher said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home, and I wanted to stay with you guys."
From: Jolly Roger on 24 Apr 2008 22:25 In article <1FaQj.15024$Zk5.5175(a)trnddc05>, Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote: > Used rsync to duplicate user directory onto another Mac. > > Both run 10.3.9 > > Mail uses keychain to store passwords. > > Keychain does not work on the copy, meaning user has to constantly > re-enter password when sending or reading mail. > > Suspect Keychain is storing some critical bit of data outside > the user's directory. > > ??? I would delete all keychain entries for the user's POP/IMAP/SMTP servers. Then let the user re-enter their password, checking the "store in keychain" box each time to re-create the keychain entries. -- Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Ian Gregory on 24 Apr 2008 22:39 On 2008-04-25, Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote: > Used rsync to duplicate user directory onto another Mac. I used to back up my Tiger home directory onto an external HFS Plus formatted drive using rsync and assumed it was OK. Just before doing an erase and install of Leopard I did some research and it seems like you actually need RsyncX or some other HFS patched rsync, otherwise you could end up loosing forks/metadata etc. To be safe I drug and dropped my home directory to the external drive before the erase and install and used that copy instead. > Keychain does not work on the copy, meaning user has to constantly > re-enter password when sending or reading mail. > Suspect Keychain is storing some critical bit of data outside > the user's directory. I don't think so? After doing an erase and install of Leopard I just recovered my ~/Library/Keychains/login.keychains from my old Tiger home directory and it is working fine. Now I use Time Machine for backups so I haven't bothered following up my rsync research. Ian -- Ian Gregory http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
From: Wes Groleau on 25 Apr 2008 00:28 Jolly Roger wrote: > Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote: > >> Used rsync to duplicate user directory onto another Mac. >> >> Both run 10.3.9 >> >> Mail uses keychain to store passwords. >> >> Keychain does not work on the copy, meaning user has to constantly >> re-enter password when sending or reading mail. >> >> Suspect Keychain is storing some critical bit of data outside >> the user's directory. >> >> ??? > > I would delete all keychain entries for the user's POP/IMAP/SMTP > servers. Then let the user re-enter their password, checking the "store > in keychain" box each time to re-create the keychain entries. I guess I should have been more specific on "Keychain doesn't work" When you put a password in the preferences in Mail, it actually transparently puts it in the Keychain. Keychain, however, does not store it, but no error message is issued. Open mail prefs again, still blank. When Mail wants to send or fetch, it checks Keychain for password, and doesn't get it. So it pops up an enter password box. Enter password, check the "store in keychain" and the mail action succeeds. But it still demands a password next time. Open Keychain Access, click the unlock--nothing happens. Works for other users on the same Mac. Works for all users on the other Mac. Their ~ directories are exact copies (unless rsync has a bug) -- Wes Groleau "If it wasn't for that blasted back-hoe, a hundred of us could be working with shovels" "Yeah, and if it weren't for our shovels, a thousand of us could be working with spoons."
From: Wes Groleau on 25 Apr 2008 00:33
Ian Gregory wrote: > On 2008-04-25, Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote: > >> Used rsync to duplicate user directory onto another Mac. > > I used to back up my Tiger home directory onto an external HFS Plus > formatted drive using rsync and assumed it was OK. Just before doing an > erase and install of Leopard I did some research and it seems like you > actually need RsyncX or some other HFS patched rsync, otherwise you > could end up loosing forks/metadata etc. To be safe I drug and dropped I thought the rsync on Tiger had the patch. I'm on 10.3.9 but I use the patched rsync that comes packed inside of rsyncx. >> Suspect Keychain is storing some critical bit of data outside >> the user's directory. > > I don't think so? After doing an erase and install of Leopard I just > recovered my ~/Library/Keychains/login.keychains from my old Tiger home > directory and it is working fine. But in this case, that file for all users has been synced to two Macs by rsync. But it fails on _one_ Mac for _one_ user. Maybe I should just delete the whole keychain and start a new one. -- Wes Groleau "If it wasn't for that blasted back-hoe, a hundred of us could be working with shovels" "Yeah, and if it weren't for our shovels, a thousand of us could be working with spoons." |