From: Cameo on
Is there a clearly superior laptop manufacturer in its support function
both within and beyond the warranty period? In "beyond" I mean such
things as periodic firmware and driver upgrades that are specific to the
laptop model.

From: the wharf rat on
In article <hhj1si$lov$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Cameo <cameo(a)cameo.invalid> wrote:
>Is there a clearly superior laptop manufacturer in its support function
>both within and beyond the warranty period? In "beyond" I mean such
>things as periodic firmware and driver upgrades that are specific to the
>laptop model.
>
Lenovo or Dell.

I've worked with dozens of these guys, and IMHO the big Japanese
manufacturers like Fujitsu and Sony make good laptops but their support
isn't great and the units are very difficult to get parts for and repair.
Dell sometimes has quality problems these days but gives great support. Until
they decide the unit's been end of lifed. It's difficult to get support
for "obsolete" products but drivers are available and you can find lots of
parts on the used market. They're easy to work on, too.

Lenovo not only has great support but you can find drivers, patches,
software, and parts for units they made a decade or more ago. There's a
good used market too. And they're designed to be repairable. For instance,
the dc power jack is a separate unit so if you break it you don't need a
whole new motherboard.

I've had unpleasant experiences with HP and Gateway.




From: Barry Watzman on
Lenovo, Dell, Toshiba. MAYBE Gateway. Avoid Sony. My own experiences
with HP/Compaq have not been good, but others have different stories
(there is some level of inconsistency among all of the vendors).


Cameo wrote:
> Is there a clearly superior laptop manufacturer in its support function
> both within and beyond the warranty period? In "beyond" I mean such
> things as periodic firmware and driver upgrades that are specific to the
> laptop model.
From: Cameo on
"the wharf rat" <wrat(a)panix.com> wrote in message
news:hhjg8d$fki$1(a)reader1.panix.com...
> Lenovo or Dell.
>
> I've worked with dozens of these guys, and IMHO the big Japanese
> manufacturers like Fujitsu and Sony make good laptops but their
> support
> isn't great and the units are very difficult to get parts for and
> repair.
> Dell sometimes has quality problems these days but gives great
> support. Until
> they decide the unit's been end of lifed. It's difficult to get
> support
> for "obsolete" products but drivers are available and you can find
> lots of
> parts on the used market. They're easy to work on, too.
>
> Lenovo not only has great support but you can find drivers, patches,
> software, and parts for units they made a decade or more ago. There's
> a
> good used market too. And they're designed to be repairable. For
> instance,
> the dc power jack is a separate unit so if you break it you don't need
> a
> whole new motherboard.
>
> I've had unpleasant experiences with HP and Gateway.

I sure can testify to the HP part. I almost bought a Lenovo but my
irresistable urge for instant gratification drove me to HP as they were
readily available in local stores. Lenovos were only available online.
Now I am paying for it, though from what I read from other HP users I
seem to be luckier than many others as my notebook has been working
mostly OK. It's just the lack of Win7 drivers that I am pissed off
about. And my notebook is not even 2 years old.

From: Ryan P. on
On 1/1/2010 3:17 AM, Cameo wrote:

> I sure can testify to the HP part. I almost bought a Lenovo but my
> irresistable urge for instant gratification drove me to HP as they were
> readily available in local stores. Lenovos were only available online.
> Now I am paying for it, though from what I read from other HP users I
> seem to be luckier than many others as my notebook has been working
> mostly OK. It's just the lack of Win7 drivers that I am pissed off
> about. And my notebook is not even 2 years old.

I've been putting off attempting to upgrade my DV6308 to Win7 for that
exact same reason. I know I can force a lot of the Vista driver to run,
but that's not the most stable thing in the world to do. I'm already
using an XP graphics driver on my Vista system so that I have the
ability to have a full screen command prompt.

Have you made the switch yet?