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From: Mike Dobony on 5 May 2008 12:29 On Thu, 01 May 2008 12:50:50 +0100, Ron(UK) wrote: > Arny Krueger wrote: > > Take a lecturn mic. It can't be moved more than a few >> inches without ripping it out of its flex mount. I think we all know that if >> you have a mic that goes into feedback when you move it even a few inches, >> you are dead. > > > Surely if a lecturn mike is so close to feeding back that moving it 'a > few inches' sets it off, there`s something fundamentally wrong. Either > it`s the wrong mike for the job, a serious mismatch. or there`s a gross > problem with either the system or microphone eq. > > What about absolutely lousy building design? What about placing a sound-catching, open backed lectern that captures sound and resonates up the top into the mic and you are fighting between getting enough gain to make the mic of any use and the feedback. I have been in many churches where the platform is a very effective sound collector (like the parabolic mic) and any noise from the pews is focused into the lectern. Or the platform resonates like crazy? > Take the praise team in our church. Other than absences, >> there is only one person who does not play or sing the same part every week. > > > Admittedly worship groups can be dificult to work with, that`s generally > a problem which they share with most amateur performers, and trying > to educate them can be a thankless task > > Also, I find that the expectations of a lot of people far exceed the > capabilities of the equipment (and themselves often) - Radio mikes come > to mind here. > > > Ron(UK) > "It`s a microphone, not a magic wand!"
From: George's ProSound Company on 5 May 2008 12:45 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:15cx51vladxva$.t3ikdhk4sz9s.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Thu, 01 May 2008 12:50:50 +0100, Ron(UK) wrote: > >> Arny Krueger wrote: >> >> Take a lecturn mic. It can't be moved more than a few >>> inches without ripping it out of its flex mount. I think we all know >>> that if >>> you have a mic that goes into feedback when you move it even a few >>> inches, >>> you are dead. >> >> >> Surely if a lecturn mike is so close to feeding back that moving it 'a >> few inches' sets it off, there`s something fundamentally wrong. Either >> it`s the wrong mike for the job, a serious mismatch. or there`s a gross >> problem with either the system or microphone eq. >> >> > > What about absolutely lousy building design? you mean like your painting brick walls with truck bed liner, as a acoustical treatment? george
From: Phildo on 5 May 2008 13:19 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:15cx51vladxva$.t3ikdhk4sz9s.dlg(a)40tude.net... >> Surely if a lecturn mike is so close to feeding back that moving it 'a >> few inches' sets it off, there`s something fundamentally wrong. Either >> it`s the wrong mike for the job, a serious mismatch. or there`s a gross >> problem with either the system or microphone eq. >> >> > > What about absolutely lousy building design? What about placing a > sound-catching, open backed lectern that captures sound and resonates up > the top into the mic and you are fighting between getting enough gain to > make the mic of any use and the feedback. I have been in many churches > where the platform is a very effective sound collector (like the parabolic > mic) and any noise from the pews is focused into the lectern. Or the > platform resonates like crazy? All things that any decent engineer should have gotten sorted. Then again you are far from a decent engineer. Hell, you are far from a decent human being. Phildo
From: Phildo on 5 May 2008 13:20 "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message news:nP-dnRklhvVYU4TVnZ2dnUVZ_qygnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >>> Surely if a lecturn mike is so close to feeding back >>> that moving it 'a few inches' sets it off, there`s >>> something fundamentally wrong. Either it`s the wrong >>> mike for the job, a serious mismatch. or there`s a gross >>> problem with either the system or microphone eq. >> >> I think we can safely say that in this case the gross >> problem is the know-nothing blowhard who runs the system. > > You missed my point, Phildo. You missed my point Arny. You are a know-nothing blowhard who shouldn't be trying to dispense "advice" on live sound. Phildo
From: Phildo on 5 May 2008 13:22
"Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message news:LfqdnSw8yZ2xUoTVnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > "Ron(UK)" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message > news:V5idnemH2PtJVITVnZ2dnUVZ8uednZ2d(a)bt.com >> Arny Krueger wrote: >>> "Ron(UK)" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message >>> news:nNGdnUcZNoTHKYTVRVnyiwA(a)bt.com >>> >>>> I wasn`t attempting to engage him - I realise that it`s >>>> not easy to maintain a reasonable converation for any >>>> length of time with arny before he imagines some slight >>>> on his character, abilites or religion. >>> >>> Ron, I'm guessing that you are so socially inept that >>> you can't imagnine how this would be a slight to >>> anybody's character. > >> I rest my case > > Thanks for proving me correct in my guesstimate. All you proved was that you are an idiot. Then again you do that with every post you make. Phildo |