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From: Ron(UK) on 5 May 2008 15:04
Mike Dobony wrote:
> On Thu, 01 May 2008 12:50:50 +0100, Ron(UK) wrote:
>
>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>> Take a lecturn mic. It can't be moved more than a few
>>> inches without ripping it out of its flex mount. I think we all know that if
>>> you have a mic that goes into feedback when you move it even a few inches,
>>> you are dead.
>>
>> Surely if a lecturn mike is so close to feeding back that moving it 'a
>> few inches' sets it off, there`s something fundamentally wrong. Either
>> it`s the wrong mike for the job, a serious mismatch. or there`s a gross
>> problem with either the system or microphone eq.
>>
>>
>
> What about absolutely lousy building design? What about placing a
> sound-catching, open backed lectern that captures sound and resonates up
> the top into the mic and you are fighting between getting enough gain to
> make the mic of any use and the feedback. I have been in many churches
> where the platform is a very effective sound collector (like the parabolic
> mic) and any noise from the pews is focused into the lectern. Or the
> platform resonates like crazy?

You fix the problem at source - Don`t use a 'sound-catching, open backed
lectern that captures sound and resonates up the top into the mic'!
change it for something else or modify it so that doesn't happen, or use
a better mike.

If 'noise from the pews' is getting in the lecturn mike. it`s probably
the congregation getting restless ;)

Ron
From: Ron(UK) on 5 May 2008 16:19
Mike Dobony wrote:
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 20:04:25 +0100, Ron(UK) wrote:
>
>> Mike Dobony wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 May 2008 12:50:50 +0100, Ron(UK) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Take a lecturn mic. It can't be moved more than a few
>>>>> inches without ripping it out of its flex mount. I think we all know that if
>>>>> you have a mic that goes into feedback when you move it even a few inches,
>>>>> you are dead.
>>>> Surely if a lecturn mike is so close to feeding back that moving it 'a
>>>> few inches' sets it off, there`s something fundamentally wrong. Either
>>>> it`s the wrong mike for the job, a serious mismatch. or there`s a gross
>>>> problem with either the system or microphone eq.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What about absolutely lousy building design? What about placing a
>>> sound-catching, open backed lectern that captures sound and resonates up
>>> the top into the mic and you are fighting between getting enough gain to
>>> make the mic of any use and the feedback. I have been in many churches
>>> where the platform is a very effective sound collector (like the parabolic
>>> mic) and any noise from the pews is focused into the lectern. Or the
>>> platform resonates like crazy?
>> You fix the problem at source - Don`t use a 'sound-catching, open backed
>> lectern that captures sound and resonates up the top into the mic'!
>> change it for something else or modify it so that doesn't happen, or use
>> a better mike.
>>
>
> All it needs is money and a new building. No problem for a congregation of
> 25 members from a small town and the pastor needs to have a day job just to
> live on.

You should be able to get away without a lectern mike, tell your pastor
to speak up.
>
>> If 'noise from the pews' is getting in the lecturn mike. it`s probably
>> the congregation getting restless ;)
>>
>> Ron
>
> I could hear quite talking in the PFL. There was no room for any more
> boost and as it was it was barely amplified, only a few db avobe
> unamplified.

So you're saying that the mike picks up the congregation (who are some
distance away) better than it picks up the preacher (who presumably is
right on top of it) A: Check that the mike isn't facing the wrong way.
B: get a better mike, a unidirectiona.... ahhh I see the problem now,
you're using one of those special omni SM58`s aren't you?

HtH
Ron
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