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From: The New guy on 24 Apr 2008 18:03 > Perhaps most disconcerting, however, is a message that MacFixIt reader, > Tim Thomason, received from Psystar's support team, which reads: > "We absolutely do not support customers attempting to install the > Leopard operating system on our Open Computer themselves. This is due to > a difficult process that we go through to get Leopard to function on our > computers. We encourage you to purchase an open computer, and select the > option to have Leopard Pre-installed." > Of course, the reader asked what options were available in the event of > a major system failure requiring Leopard reinstallation, to which > Psystar suggested a return shipment to the company. > "Currently, (shipping the computer back to us) is the only option > available. If the HDD dies, you can ship it to us for $50 plus shipping, > so we can replace it for you." > > Great: a Hackintosh that won't let you install the OS yourself. They're just trying to scare people the same as Apple does all the time. That's ironic. The whole point of the EFI patch is to make the everything very easy. Apple will probably update something soon that will wreck that EFI patch. Then the hassle factor will go way up. Not to many people want a computer that is frozen in time. > I wonder whether it will let you update Leopard whenever Apple provides > system updates? What about security updates? The EFI hack is supposed to remove those problems. Updates are supposed to be fine. > And what happens when 10.6 is released? As JR says, Google is your friend. Nobody is going to die if they don't get their computer updated. Its not as if Mac users have immense security concerns if their computers are not updated like Windows need to all the time. Most people wouldn't even notice if their system suddenly reverted back 6 months in time.
From: TaliesinSoft on 24 Apr 2008 18:21 On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:47:06 -0500, Michelle Steiner wrote (in article <michelle-9A8765.14470624042008(a)news.west.cox.net>): [commenting on a MacFixit article on the Psystar "Mac clone"] > Great: a Hackintosh that won't let you install the OS yourself. I wonder > whether it will let you update Leopard whenever Apple provides system > updates? What about security updates? Interestingly P. T. Barnum came immediately to my mind--you know, the famous (but apparently not actual) quote about who is born every minute! -- James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft(a)mac.com
From: Tom Harrington on 24 Apr 2008 20:27 In article <noemailhere-C5A8EF.17035424042008(a)news.mts.net>, The New guy <noemailhere(a)please.comm> wrote: > > Perhaps most disconcerting, however, is a message that MacFixIt reader, > > Tim Thomason, received from Psystar's support team, which reads: > > "We absolutely do not support customers attempting to install the > > Leopard operating system on our Open Computer themselves. This is due to > > a difficult process that we go through to get Leopard to function on our > > computers. We encourage you to purchase an open computer, and select the > > option to have Leopard Pre-installed." > > Of course, the reader asked what options were available in the event of > > a major system failure requiring Leopard reinstallation, to which > > Psystar suggested a return shipment to the company. > > "Currently, (shipping the computer back to us) is the only option > > available. If the HDD dies, you can ship it to us for $50 plus shipping, > > so we can replace it for you." > > > > Great: a Hackintosh that won't let you install the OS yourself. > > They're just trying to scare people the same as Apple does all the time. You're joking. Apple does not suggest shipping a Mac back to them just to get the OS installed. I don't think that's even an option. They assume you can do it yourself, because it's not hard to do with a Leopard DVD. > That's ironic. The whole point of the EFI patch is to make the > everything very easy. Apple will probably update something soon that > will wreck that EFI patch. Then the hassle factor will go way up. Not > to many people want a computer that is frozen in time. If that's what the EFI patch does, it must not do it very well if it's necessary to ship a computer back to the manufacturer in this situation. -- Tom "Tom" Harrington Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002 http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: The New guy on 24 Apr 2008 21:32 > > > Perhaps most disconcerting, however, is a message that MacFixIt reader, > > > Tim Thomason, received from Psystar's support team, which reads: > > > "We absolutely do not support customers attempting to install the > > > Leopard operating system on our Open Computer themselves. This is due to > > > a difficult process that we go through to get Leopard to function on our > > > computers. We encourage you to purchase an open computer, and select the > > > option to have Leopard Pre-installed." > > > Of course, the reader asked what options were available in the event of > > > a major system failure requiring Leopard reinstallation, to which > > > Psystar suggested a return shipment to the company. > > > "Currently, (shipping the computer back to us) is the only option > > > available. If the HDD dies, you can ship it to us for $50 plus shipping, > > > so we can replace it for you." > > > > > > Great: a Hackintosh that won't let you install the OS yourself. > > > > They're just trying to scare people the same as Apple does all the time. > > You're joking. Apple does not suggest shipping a Mac back to them just > to get the OS installed. I don't think that's even an option. Of course its not. Why would you assume such a thing? I meant that they are trying to make the install process sound difficult, just like Apple scares away people from opening their machine to perform as rudimentary a task as changing memory. Same mentality. Scare the customer so they come back to us. Take away power from the customer. Its used all the time. Very popular in the car industry of course when people are always tempted to use the "service center with lower prices down the street" instead of coming back to the dealer for very simple service needs. > They assume you can do it yourself, because it's not hard to do with a > Leopard DVD. Of course it is. One of the best things about OS X. > > That's ironic. The whole point of the EFI patch is to make the > > everything very easy. Apple will probably update something soon that > > will wreck that EFI patch. Then the hassle factor will go way up. Not > > to many people want a computer that is frozen in time. > > If that's what the EFI patch does, it must not do it very well if it's > necessary to ship a computer back to the manufacturer in this situation. No. That's Psystar trying to maintain control. If people knew how easy this was they would just buy the components off Newegg (for much less of course) and do it themselves. Psystar is contributing nothing. Does anyone have any idea what motherboard they are using? This seems shrouded in mystery. The mb is the main key to smooth installation and operation of OSX86. Especially as most modern mb's have built in LAN, Audio and Firewire and some have Raid 0 as well. So if the motherboard is 100% compatible your work is mostly taken care of. Then the next thing is the video card and any high end peripherals you might want to use. It can get complicated of course if you're a hardware demanding user.
From: TaliesinSoft on 24 Apr 2008 21:43
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:30:20 -0500, Michelle Steiner wrote (in article <michelle-E8E69E.18302024042008(a)news.west.cox.net>): > In article <0001HW.C436721E000A6E54B01AD9AF(a)News.Individual.NET>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)mac.coom> wrote: > >> Interestingly P. T. Barnum came immediately to my mind--you know, the >> famous (but apparently not actual) quote about who is born every minute! > > It's an actual quote, but not by him. So, just who was the utterer? -- James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft(a)mac.com |