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From: The Natural Philosopher on 7 May 2008 14:09 Hadron wrote: > Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8(a)verizon.net> writes: > >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote: >>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:31:47 -0400, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> "I believe it will never become mainstream in it's current form." >>>> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1327806771&t=28030 >> I, personally, do not care if Linux becomes "mainstream" or not. I find it >> suits my needs much better than Microsoftware does. If you do not find this >> to be the case for your needs, use something else. Why not? >> >>> At 0.6 percent of the desktop market after 10 years and despite being free, >>> that is probably a true statement. >> It is difficult to measure the desktop market after 10 years, or after any >> period of time because Linux software is not always sold, and even when it >> is, it can usually be copied free to other systems. So (ignoring >> piracy), > > > It's only difficult if you are a complete idiot. It is easy to get some > idea of relative usage from net stats to an OS independent web site like > the BBC. They clocked Linux at under 1% of their visitors which a casual > look around would appear to verify. Since its pretty much mandatory to tell the server you are in fact MS explorer to get onto most of their stuff, that doesn't surprise me..;-)
From: Hadron on 7 May 2008 14:58 The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> writes: > Moshe Goldfarb wrote: >> >> Linux should give up on the desktop market, like Redhat did, and >> concentrate on servers and embedded devices. >> > > ? teh very structure of that sentence shows your ignorance. Linux is > not an entity, corporate or individual, that has intentionality, and > therefore cannot act as the subject of an an anthropic verb like > should'.. > > Linux is an operating system. > > All it 'should' do is work. > > In whatever way its *designers and developers* want it to. > > Since they don't make a cent from it, its pretty hard to tell *them* > what they should or should not do. And expect them to listen. Nonsense. Most of the kernel developers and the developers of the bigger SW applications do indeed make money from it. -- XP is a flop and when users are still asking for W98 it shows that they aren't all taken in with the MS hype. comp.os.linux.advocacy - where they put the lunacy in advocacy
From: Ezekiel on 7 May 2008 14:57 "JEDIDIAH" <jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote in message news:slrng23ri9.bst.jedi(a)nomad.mishnet... > On 2008-05-07, Ezekiel <a(a)b.com> wrote: >> >> "Jean-David Beyer" <jeandavid8(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:xdkUj.7719$0L.7200(a)trnddc07... >>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote: >>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:31:47 -0400, DFS wrote: >>>> >>>>> "I believe it will never become mainstream in it's current form." >>>>> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1327806771&t=28030 >>>> >>> I, personally, do not care if Linux becomes "mainstream" or not. I find >>> it >>> suits my needs much better than Microsoftware does. If you do not find >>> this >>> to be the case for your needs, use something else. Why not? >>> >>>> At 0.6 percent of the desktop market after 10 years and despite being >>>> free, >>>> that is probably a true statement. >>> >>> It is difficult to measure the desktop market after 10 years, or after >>> any >>> period of time because Linux software is not always sold, and even when >>> it >>> is, it can usually be copied free to other systems. So (ignoring >>> piracy), >>> Microsoftware can be measured rather accurately, where Linux systems >>> cannot. >> >> This is all fine and well if we were talking about "sales" - but we're >> talking about "usage" and many free things can be accurately measured, so >> why not linux? > > ...what other free things can be accurately measured? Try the things that you "snipped" for starters. Radio, television, etc. >> >> This thing called "statistics" has been around a while and it's proven to >> work rather well. We can "measure" how many people will travel over 50 >> miles > > Spoken like someone who's never had a stats class or even opened up > a stats book. Yes. I'm not surprised that you've never opened up a stat book. If you did you'd realize that a very good estimate of anything can be statistically calculated. > [deletia] > > -- > > The social cost of suing/prosecuting individuals ||| > for non-commercial copyright infringement far outweighs / | \ > the social value of copyright to begin with. > > > > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services > ---------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.usenet.com ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
From: Hadron on 7 May 2008 14:59 JEDIDIAH <jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> writes: > On 2008-05-07, Ezekiel <a(a)b.com> wrote: >> >> "Jean-David Beyer" <jeandavid8(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:xdkUj.7719$0L.7200(a)trnddc07... >>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote: >>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:31:47 -0400, DFS wrote: >>>> >>>>> "I believe it will never become mainstream in it's current form." >>>>> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1327806771&t=28030 >>>> >>> I, personally, do not care if Linux becomes "mainstream" or not. I find it >>> suits my needs much better than Microsoftware does. If you do not find >>> this >>> to be the case for your needs, use something else. Why not? >>> >>>> At 0.6 percent of the desktop market after 10 years and despite being >>>> free, >>>> that is probably a true statement. >>> >>> It is difficult to measure the desktop market after 10 years, or after any >>> period of time because Linux software is not always sold, and even when it >>> is, it can usually be copied free to other systems. So (ignoring piracy), >>> Microsoftware can be measured rather accurately, where Linux systems >>> cannot. >> >> This is all fine and well if we were talking about "sales" - but we're >> talking about "usage" and many free things can be accurately measured, so >> why not linux? > > ...what other free things can be accurately measured? Is that a rhetorical question since most things can be measured. > >> >> This thing called "statistics" has been around a while and it's proven to >> work rather well. We can "measure" how many people will travel over 50 miles > > Spoken like someone who's never had a stats class or even opened up > a stats book. > > [deletia] You can run. But you can not hide. -- XP is a flop and when users are still asking for W98 it shows that they aren't all taken in with the MS hype. comp.os.linux.advocacy - where they put the lunacy in advocacy
From: Hadron on 7 May 2008 15:01
The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> writes: > Hadron wrote: >> Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8(a)verizon.net> writes: >> >>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote: >>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:31:47 -0400, DFS wrote: >>>> >>>>> "I believe it will never become mainstream in it's current form." >>>>> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1327806771&t=28030 >>> I, personally, do not care if Linux becomes "mainstream" or not. I find it >>> suits my needs much better than Microsoftware does. If you do not find this >>> to be the case for your needs, use something else. Why not? >>> >>>> At 0.6 percent of the desktop market after 10 years and despite being free, >>>> that is probably a true statement. >>> It is difficult to measure the desktop market after 10 years, or after any >>> period of time because Linux software is not always sold, and even when it >>> is, it can usually be copied free to other systems. So (ignoring >>> piracy), >> >> >> It's only difficult if you are a complete idiot. It is easy to get some >> idea of relative usage from net stats to an OS independent web site like >> the BBC. They clocked Linux at under 1% of their visitors which a casual >> look around would appear to verify. > Since its pretty much mandatory to tell the server you are in fact MS > explorer to get onto most of their stuff, that doesn't surprise > me..;-) For those that dont know, that statement is an outright lie, But I assume you were joking. I do all my surfing using iceweasel on debian. -- XP is a flop and when users are still asking for W98 it shows that they aren't all taken in with the MS hype. comp.os.linux.advocacy - where they put the lunacy in advocacy |