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From: AES on 4 May 2008 14:47
[This is a follow-on to an earlier thread titled "Re: Finding the date
of latest SuperDuper! backup?"]

A few brief experiments seem to show that if you use SuperDuper!'s
Window >> Show Log (or Window >> Logs) command immediately following a
SuperDuper! backup, you will see the log file of recent backups; and you
can then rename and save this file to a location of your choice.

(I think you can also close SuperDuper!; re-open it later on; and do the
same thing.)

If, however, you Save this log file (under any name) to the default
choice in the "Save" dialog, which is called "Logs", it goes to some
folder, presumably named "Logs", with the property that neither that
folder nor the Saved file itself seem to be findable using Spotlight ---
at least not with the default settings or prefs for Spotlight on my
MacBook under Tiger --- nor using EasyFind.

In addition, the renamed log file is saved with file suffix .sdlog,
which seems to mean that (a) the only default (or recommended) app for
opening it (using right-click or Get Info) is SuperDuper! itself, and
(b) this suffix also cannot be found using SuperDuper! (at least with
default settings).

Saving the renamed log file to the desktop or similar location, and then
forcing it open using TextEdit or similar, or forcing a suffix change to
..txt, produces a readable version of the log, as one might expect.

Presumably, the renamed log file could also be saved to the backup's
target volume using the same approach, provided that volume is still
mounted.

Note to Shirt Pocket: Allowing a user option to save a cc of the log
file to source and/or target desktops or user libraries, in .txt format,
might be a useful option . . . ?
From: Mike Rosenberg on 4 May 2008 15:02
AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:

> Note to Shirt Pocket: Allowing a user option to save a cc of the log
> file to source and/or target desktops or user libraries, in .txt format,
> might be a useful option . . . ?

Okay, but this is _not_ a note to Shirt Pocket. If you really want it to
be a note to Shirt Pocket, you should literally make it a note to them
by contacting them directly.

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From: TaliesinSoft on 4 May 2008 17:20
On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:05:55 -0500, Tim Lance wrote (in article
<JLmdnZT2m9i4ioPVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d(a)giganews.com>):

[commenting on the accessibility of logs in SuperDuper!

> But the developer does have an issue with the Logs being easily viewed and
> has never given a decent rational. In the v1 of SD! they were. I would
> like to see this taken up in debate there.


Am I missing something here? If one undertakes scheduled backups in
SuperDuper! the most recent log for each scheduled target is available
directly in the Scheduled Copies window. The log for the most recent
unscheduled Backup is available in the main SuperDuper! window. I'm running
SuperDuper! Version 2.5 (v84) which is the most recent release.


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From: Jolly Roger on 4 May 2008 18:12
In article <tq-dncw_jdKuroPVnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
Tim Lance <see.sig(a)bottom.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:20:26 -0500, TaliesinSoft wrote
> (in article <0001HW.C44392CA000A2270B01AD9AF(a)News.Individual.NET>):
>
> > On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:05:55 -0500, Tim Lance wrote (in article
> > <JLmdnZT2m9i4ioPVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d(a)giganews.com>):
> >
> > [commenting on the accessibility of logs in SuperDuper!
> >
> >> But the developer does have an issue with the Logs being easily viewed and
> >> has never given a decent rational. In the v1 of SD! they were. I would
> >> like to see this taken up in debate there.
> >
> >
> > Am I missing something here? If one undertakes scheduled backups in
> > SuperDuper! the most recent log for each scheduled target is available
> > directly in the Scheduled Copies window. The log for the most recent
> > unscheduled Backup is available in the main SuperDuper! window. I'm running
> > SuperDuper! Version 2.5 (v84) which is the most recent release.
> >
> Yeah but if you simply want to go and grab some logs you have to jump through
> hoops. Merely going into Finder or through Open in your favorite text editor
> is easier and more normal in some folks' opinions.
>
> When in Super Duper! only the last log is shown when you select Show Log. If
> you have no scheduled backups there is nothing there. If you have special
> settings the logs for those will be there but you have to "Show package
> contents" to see them. Similarly all other logs are hidden from easy view
> (WHY?). The path on my machine is pasted below:
>
> Gustav:Users:timlance:Library:Application Support:SuperDuper!:Saved
> Settings:.Default Settings.sdsp:Logs (My drive is named Gustav - LONG story.)
> Note the dot before Default Settings.sdsp
>
> Why make it this difficult?

I have to say, personally, I'd rather see the logs thrown into
~/Library/Logs or /var/logs myself.

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From: TaliesinSoft on 4 May 2008 18:43
On Sun, 4 May 2008 17:05:36 -0500, Tim Lance wrote (in article
<tq-dncw_jdKuroPVnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>):

[responding to my stating in my preceding posting in this thread how one can
access SuperDuper! logs directly from within the SuperDuper! application]

> Yeah but if you simply want to go and grab some logs you have to jump
> through hoops. Merely going into Finder or through Open in your favorite
> text editor is easier and more normal in some folks' opinions.

Well, there is the so-called "different strokes" explanation and to me
accessing the logs from within SuperDuper! strikes me as both easier and more
logical.

I've been using SuperDuper! since early in 2004, and I honestly cannot
remember what the version number was then. The only times I've actually
needed to view a log has been when there has been a backup failure and I've
opted or have been requested to send the log to Shirt-Pocket, the developers
of SuperDuper!. I have SuperDuper! configured to use the Growl notification,
so in the morning when I check my computer I will see immediately whether or
not my two nightly scheduled backups have completed successfully. If there
has been a failure it is, at least to me, totally appropriate to check the
log via SuperDuper! to see what the problem was.

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