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From: Svend Olaf Mikkelsen on 7 Apr 2008 07:30 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:40:37 +1000, Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote: >I recently tried to read an old Quantum 120MB HD that was working fine >when I put it away in my cupboard many years ago. Now I'm seeing a >whole bunch of read errors. Which BIOS or ATA error codes? -- Svend Olaf
From: Arno Wagner on 7 Apr 2008 11:14 Previously sam <sambo(a)spam.com> wrote: > Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> Previously Justin <Justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.net> wrote: >>> Al Dykes wrote: >> >>>> >>>> MOD = Magneto-Optical Disk. >>>> >>>> This was the gold standard for archival storage when I worked at >>>> BigBank, which was up to 1993. We had lots in storage in Iron >>>> Mountain and online in jukeboxes the size of large refrigerators. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optical_drive >>>> >> >>> What about DVD-RAM? >> >> It looks good in teory, but in practice less so. I recently >> bought a drive and disks. If you are really careful, they >> should last 2-3 decades, but the disk do not have cartridges >> (at least for the rives you can get) and one bad drop >> could possibly be enough. > Trivially avoidable by writing more than one copy. Doubling effort is never trivial. >> Unfortunately MOD technology has not been developed >> further for some years now, and it looks like it will not be. > Corse it wont, its WAY past its useby date. And once again, you know nothing. >> At the moment DVD RAM seems to be the best option >> for small volume long-term storage. Whether it can >> perform past the 10 year mark is not really clear to me. > You can protect yourself against that trivially by writing > that stuff to a hard drive too. See above.
From: Arno Wagner on 7 Apr 2008 11:15 Previously Justin <Justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.net> wrote: > sam wrote: >> >> Yep, way to go IMO. >> >> > Now why are DVD-RAMS better for the long term? Because they use Phase-Change technology, which is almost as good as MID technology. Arno
From: Eric Gisin on 7 Apr 2008 12:51 "Justin" <Justin(a)NobecauseIhatespam.net> wrote in message news:ftcadv$1p4$1(a)aioe.org... > > Now why are DVD-RAMS better for the long term? They read after write to verify, automatically reallocate bad sectors. Make sure you have two backup sets that you alternate.
From: sam on 7 Apr 2008 15:35
Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Previously sam <sambo(a)spam.com> wrote: >> Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>> Previously Justin <Justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.net> wrote: >>>> Al Dykes wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> MOD = Magneto-Optical Disk. >>>>> >>>>> This was the gold standard for archival storage when I worked at >>>>> BigBank, which was up to 1993. We had lots in storage in Iron >>>>> Mountain and online in jukeboxes the size of large refrigerators. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optical_drive >>>>> >>> >>>> What about DVD-RAM? >>> >>> It looks good in teory, but in practice less so. I recently >>> bought a drive and disks. If you are really careful, they >>> should last 2-3 decades, but the disk do not have cartridges >>> (at least for the rives you can get) and one bad drop >>> could possibly be enough. > >> Trivially avoidable by writing more than one copy. > > Doubling effort is never trivial. Wrong, as always. >>> Unfortunately MOD technology has not been developed >>> further for some years now, and it looks like it will not be. > >> Corse it wont, its WAY past its useby date. > > And once again, you know nothing. How odd that the entire industry doesnt either. >>> At the moment DVD RAM seems to be the best option >>> for small volume long-term storage. Whether it can >>> perform past the 10 year mark is not really clear to me. > >> You can protect yourself against that trivially by writing >> that stuff to a hard drive too. > See above. Completely useless, as always from you. |