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From: Links.Mistress on 31 Mar 2006 12:12
I have a Mac computer that runs on a G3 processor. It has no internet
connection, so nothing online could have caused the problem. I've had
it for about 5/6 months now.

Because I can't access the log-on screen, I can't troubleshoot for
help. It started after I woke up one morning and turned the monitor on,
which I always turn off. It had the screensaver frozen, and that wasn't
really my big concern. I moved the mouse and the screen turned black,
so then I restarted it. Now it turns on, but it stays at the grey
start-up screen. The last activity on the computer was that I had left
something on photoshop on (about 5 megs).

Anyway, to get to the problem:

I shut my computer off about once a week, so it might have overheated.
But last night I completely shut it off and sat with about 7 fans for 2
hours cooling it off. I then went to bed, and woke up 12 hours later.

I've unplugged/replugged everything back and have checked all the
cables. I have wiped it clean, and nothing seems to be out of place.

I turned it on this morning, but it's still stuck at the gray screen
(w/the apple and wheel). I rebooted it twice last night as well. I
don't know what more I can do except understand what the problem is. I
have about 2 gigs left on the computer.

If anyone knows how to help, please post or send me an email. Thank you
:)

From: Sally Shears on 31 Mar 2006 14:43
In article <1143825168.351674.318980(a)v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
<Links.Mistress(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a Mac computer that runs on a G3 processor. It has no internet
> connection, so nothing online could have caused the problem. I've had
> it for about 5/6 months now.
>
> Because I can't access the log-on screen, I can't troubleshoot for
> help.

Links.Mistress -- What model? What OS? Tell us more and we can help.

OK, I'll try to help anyway...
- Read: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107393
- Look at related pages linked from that one
- Start up with shift key held down (safe mode)
- Start up with the installer CD and run Disk Utility

Good luck... I have a G3 PowerBook that runs 24x7 all the time.

-- Sally

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From: Links.Mistress on 31 Mar 2006 15:07
>OK, I'll try to help anyway...
> - Read: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107393
>- Look at related pages linked from that one
> - Start up with shift key held down (safe mode)
> - Start up with the installer CD and run Disk Utility


>Good luck... I have a G3 PowerBook that runs 24x7 all the time.


> -- Sally

Umm... it's an Apple PowerMac1, 1 1. 1f4 Version OSX :)

When I boot it, it says:

OpenFirmware 3.1.1 (to continue booting, type "mac-boot", to shut down,

type, "shut-down")
When I type in mac-boot, a gray screen comes up and a folder with the
mac logo keeps switching from that to, "?"
Then the other gray screen comes up and the wheel keeps spinning.

I'm glad to know it's not the 24/7 problem that's causing it to be so
disobedient! And thank you very much, I'll check that link now :)

From: tacit on 31 Mar 2006 16:59
In article <1143835656.154161.291700(a)z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Links.Mistress(a)gmail.com wrote:

> When I boot it, it says:
>
> OpenFirmware 3.1.1 (to continue booting, type "mac-boot", to shut down,
>
> type, "shut-down")
> When I type in mac-boot, a gray screen comes up and a folder with the
> mac logo keeps switching from that to, "?"
> Then the other gray screen comes up and the wheel keeps spinning.

This may indicate a number of problems. In order from least complicated
to most complicated:

1. Booting into Open Firmware often indicates a problem with some gadget
or device (usually, but not always, a USB device). Even a bad mouse can
cause this. Disconnect all your devices--everything, including external
hard disks, even your keyboard and mouse--and start the computer. Does
it work then? Does it finish booting? Does it still start in Open
Firmware?

2. Get the Install CD and boot from the CD by holding down the C key on
the keyboard. When the installer comes up, look under the menus for Disk
Utility. In Disk Utility, repair your hard drive. Does it report any
errors? Does it boot then? Does Disk Utility show the drive SMART status
as "verified" or "failing"?

3. Boot from your Install CD and re-install your operating system using
the "Archive and Install" option. (This will NOT erase any of your data
or remove any of your programs; you're safe.) Does that help?

4. Run a commercial disk repair program like DiskWarrior. Does that help?

5. Use your Apple Hardware Test CD that came with the computer. Does
that show any problems? Does it pass both the standard and extended
tests? Does it show any error codes? If it shows errors, what are they?

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From: Links.Mistress on 31 Mar 2006 17:06
tacit wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.system/browse_thread/thread/b485ef316af1a7e/8c21c64d33103dc1#8c21c64d33103dc1

Oh, oh thank you very much! I'll try that out as soon as possible :)

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