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From: Matthew Lybanon on 6 May 2008 09:10
In article
<doraymeRidThis-A7CA7F.10592106052008(a)news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article <slrng1ufgr.15qa.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>,
> Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> > In message <doraymeRidThis-0B1751.13012903052008(a)news-vip.optusnet.com.au>
> > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > what would dialup users or slow broadband think?).
> >
> > Sorry, but I stopped worrying about dialup users 6 years ago when the last
> > person in my family finally got ADSL. I hear there are still people on
> > dialup, but I could not prove it.
>
> Why did you ever worry about dialup? Do you make websites only for your
> family?
>
> >
> > > The advantage is bandwidth and clarity, especially bandwidth. No one
> > > wants to download a 2592 px wide pic if they are only interested in
> > > seeing it at 400px.
> >
> > But they take the same amount of time (that is, 'none') to download! :)
>
> This is not true for many people (not you or your family who maybe have
> superfast), even on what is broadly known as broadband. And it is
> demonstrably false when you take into account a set of pictures.

Very true. And from another point of view, a channel only has so much
capacity (bits/second). It may be very high, but it is finite. People
who waste bandwidth slow the internet down for everybody.
From: Gregory Weston on 7 May 2008 15:24
In article <slrng23nll.15qa.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <doraymeRidThis-A7CA7F.10592106052008(a)news-vip.optusnet.com.au>
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > In article <slrng1ufgr.15qa.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>,
> > Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >> In message <doraymeRidThis-0B1751.13012903052008(a)news-vip.optusnet.com.au>
> >> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> > what would dialup users or slow broadband think?).
> >>
> >> Sorry, but I stopped worrying about dialup users 6 years ago when the last
> >> person in my family finally got ADSL. I hear there are still people on
> >> dialup, but I could not prove it.
>
> > Why did you ever worry about dialup? Do you make websites only for your
> > family?
>
> Back in 1995 worrying about dialup was sensible as the vast majority of your
> visitors were using dialup. Now-a-days, nearly none are.

Depending on who "your" visitors actually are. About 1/6 of US users are
still at 56k or less. (Silly me. I think there's a substantial
difference between 17% and "nearly none." Would you give me $100 every
time I rolled a one on a die if I gave you $10 every time I rolled 2-6?
If you wouldn't, you must also think there's a difference.) Among
industrialized nations, we're near the middle of the pack. Also, it's
not only dial-up that's an issue. Last month I switched from cable to
DSL and took a 75% speed hit in the process. There are now pages I visit
that take so long to load that Safari 3 (on 10.4) times out. I can work
around that by using a different browser or OS X 10.5, but the practical
reality is that I don't go to those sites as often as I used to. In that
sense, not taking slower connections into account because users with
slower connections don't come to your site is more than a bit circular.

--
"Harry?" Ron's voice was a mere whisper. "Do you smell something ... burning?"
- Harry Potter and the Odor of the Phoenix
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