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From: lisztnet on 7 Apr 2008 14:03
On 6 avr, 19:24, "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodg...(a)nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:43:32 -0400, <liszt...(a)aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
> > I wonder if i could install a mandriva one-spring 2007 without cdrom ?
> > and i need a speedtouch 330 modem to going to work too.
>
> I would not install any of the "one" versions, as they only have as much
> software, as will fit on one cd. Much better to go with the full dvd
> install. I'd also go with 2008.0, not 2007.

Are you sure ? sometimes version 0 is a dog.

l
From: David W. Hodgins on 7 Apr 2008 14:22
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:03:26 -0400, <lisztnet(a)aliceadsl.fr> wrote:

> Are you sure ? sometimes version 0 is a dog.

I'm running 2008.0 right now. Granted there have been a lot of updates since
it was released last fall (2008.1 is close to it's scheduled release date),
it's been one of the better releases since I started with Mandriva, back
with Mandrake 9.

The naming conventions have changed. There are two releases each year.
year.0 is released in October of the prior year.
year.1 is released in April of year.

As per
http://www.mandriva.com/archives/en/security/productlifetime.html
each realease will have updates for applications for 12 months,
and updates for basic system components for 18 months.

So plan on updating once a year, at least. Hopefully the problems that
have required clean installs, and then migrating the data will be
corrected, and each application will automatically update it's configuration
files, as needed. Wishfull thinking at this point, but I'm hoping.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: Jim Beard on 7 Apr 2008 20:51
lisztnet(a)aliceadsl.fr wrote:
> On 6 avr, 19:24, "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodg...(a)nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:43:32 -0400, <liszt...(a)aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
>>> I wonder if i could install a mandriva one-spring 2007 without cdrom ?
>>> and i need a speedtouch 330 modem to going to work too.
>> I would not install any of the "one" versions, as they only have as much
>> software, as will fit on one cd. Much better to go with the full dvd
>> install. I'd also go with 2008.0, not 2007.
>
> Are you sure ? sometimes version 0 is a dog.

2008.0 is solid (after about 700 MB of updates, maybe more by now).
It does use new ways to identify disk partitions rather than /dev/hda
and such (both LABEL=xyz and UUID=LONGSTRINGOFSTUFF are available)
but you can change fstab entries and such to the old way and it
works. The first time you see it in grub (if you use grub) it will
look horrible, but it works, however you do it.

It may be worth waiting for 2008.1, which should be out shortly.
I have been running 2008.1 beta, rc1, and rc2, and updates have
quit arriving. I think it is now set. And I have already moved
everything over from 2008.0 to the new versions rather than keep
going back and forth between them. The one thing I would not
recommend at this point is KDE4. Install if if you wish, in addition
to 3.5.9, but unless it has been significantly improved by packages
I have not tried to use yet, it is not ready for full-time duty.

Cheers!

jim b.

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From: David W. Hodgins on 8 Apr 2008 01:16
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:51:23 -0400, Jim Beard <jim.beard(a)verizon.net> wrote:

> going back and forth between them. The one thing I would not
> recommend at this point is KDE4. Install if if you wish, in addition

I'm running 2008.0, with backports. I really dislike the way
kde4 menus work. While it is working, I find having a moving
target, for the mouse, to be much worse, then the kde3 version.

I hope, that when kde4 becomes the only available version, that
it will support kde3 style menu handling.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: Jim Beard on 8 Apr 2008 20:53
David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:51:23 -0400, Jim Beard <jim.beard(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> going back and forth between them. The one thing I would not
>> recommend at this point is KDE4. Install if if you wish, in addition
>
> I'm running 2008.0, with backports. I really dislike the way
> kde4 menus work. While it is working, I find having a moving
> target, for the mouse, to be much worse, then the kde3 version.
>
> I hope, that when kde4 becomes the only available version, that
> it will support kde3 style menu handling.

At one point, with a 2008.1 release candidate, I reverted
to the kde3 style menus. But I tried going back to the "new"
and subsequent attempts failed to get the old style. I am not
sure whether availability of the old style menus was deliberate
and later broke or if something was scrambled and kde4 was
reading the kde3 config files. I gave up on it.

Cheers!

jim b.

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