From: sharkman on
Thanks Leonard..

sharkman

"Leonard Grey" <l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.
>
> The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different from
> the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.
>
> It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication should
> constitute a significant portion of its official support for Windows 7.
> Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums. The advantage
> is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The disadvantage is:
> Big Brother is watching.
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> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman" <shark(a)verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any out there?
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
>> Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
>> forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
>> there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
>> not mine. However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7
>> newsgroup: alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not
>> yet), but
>> here's one free news server that does: aioe.org

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From: Ken Blake, MVP on
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:22:57 -0500, "sharkman" <shark(a)verizon.net>
wrote:

> Thanks, Ken.
> I found that one and there is a lot of bullcrap going on there..


Certainly true. But judicious use of your killfile eliminates a lot of
it.


> I was
> hoping for a moderated one like the ones for XP that I enjoyed so much when
> I was running XP..




> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman" <shark(a)verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Are there any out there?
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
> > Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
> > forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
> > there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
> > not mine.
> >
> > However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
> > alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
> > here's one free news server that does: aioe.org
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
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From: Ken Blake, MVP on
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:23:53 -0500, Leonard Grey
<l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

> This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.
>
> The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different
> from the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.


True, but newsgroups can be moderated too. And I would have greatly
preferred that, even if the moderation were imperfect. Also note that
some newsgroups (for example, the Corel WordPerfect newsgroups) are
public, but not echoed to every news server in the world; doing that
non-echoing could have made the moderation near perfect, as it is on
the Corel WordPerfect newsgroups.


> It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication
> should constitute a significant portion of its official support for
> Windows 7. Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums.
> The advantage is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The
> disadvantage is: Big Brother is watching.



From my perspective, there's another *much* bigger (at least to me)
disadvantage. It's much slower to participate in web-based forums
(even using the nntp bridge, which I do), than in newsgroups. I do
participate but because it takes me so much longer, my participation
is at a lower level.


> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman" <shark(a)verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Are there any out there?
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
> > Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
> > forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
> > there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
> > not mine.
> >
> > However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
> > alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
> > here's one free news server that does: aioe.org
> >
> >

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