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From: Nil on 23 Apr 2008 20:42
On 23 Apr 2008, Kraig Olmstead <kraigo(a)bitstream.dontspamme.net>
wrote in cakewalk.audio:

> GASP! Don't get THOSE!
>
> Made you look! ;-)

Hey! Don't scare me, I'm hinky enough as it is!

Anyway, if I don't like these, supposedly Musiciansfriend will let you
return them. IN all the years of buying stuff from them, I've never had
to do that, but I like having the option.
From: WJ on 24 Apr 2008 08:55

"Nil" <rednoise+news(a)REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A89AC98F51D9nilch1(a)216.196.97.136...
> On 20 Apr 2008, "WJ" <waltj(a)hotmail.com> wrote in cakewalk.audio:
>
>> I'm on my second set of powered monitors. The first were Truths,
>> and they were quite good for the price, but I outgrew them and now
>> run a pair of JBL LSRs. They're really nice.
>
> OK, I pulled the trigger today. I can't justify sinking lots of dollars
> into this endeavor, so I went for the Chinese Cheapies... Behringer
> Truth B2031A active monitors, 8" woofer, 1" tweeter, 150W/75W biamped.
> And I went for refurbs from Musiciansfriend, for about $70 cheaper than
> new. I hope I don't regret that.
>
> Anyway, thanks, y'all for the support.

If you're moving up from a consumer stereo, you'll probably be pretty happy
with the Truths. They sound good, and pump plenty of power. The trouble
with budget monitors is that they're all accuracy-challenged to some degree.
You will find yourself getting the mix to sound awesome on the monitors, but
when you take it out to your car, or living room, or anywhere else music is
normally played, it will sound different. There are things you can do to
help (listening room acoustics are a big part of it), and it can be worked
around, but with mine I was never able to make the problem totally
disappear. That isn't to say you can't produce good music on a set of
monitors in this price range, it's just a bit more work.

If you devote yourself to mixing and developing your ear, eventually you'll
get to the point where you can actually hear what the Truths aren't
delivering. It took me a couple of years, but I got to where there was no
way I was going to get any better as a sound tech without a better set of
monitors. But the Truths took me a long way; more than enough to justify
the money I spent on them.

Cheers,
Walt



From: Kraig Olmstead on 24 Apr 2008 17:00
WJ wrote:
> If you're moving up from a consumer stereo, you'll probably be pretty happy
> with the Truths. They sound good, and pump plenty of power. The trouble
> with budget monitors is that they're all accuracy-challenged to some degree.

The problem with _ALL_ monitors is that they're accuracy-challenged to
some degree. Even if you had the perfect monitor, the chances are you
don't have them perfectly set up in the perfect room. Move your head 6"
and you've screwed it all up. And then there's the fact that you can't
control the users playback system. Do you mix for those with $6000
speakers or iPods?

Having multiple playback systems is the best you can do.

That being said, I'd love to have something like a set of JBL LSR-28's
or whatever is current. Except that it'd pull me further from
learning/composition mode and further into production mode.

I'm using a very nice small PA for monitoring now. I'm planning on
selling my Tannoy monitoring system (2.1). Anyone here from the
Minneapolis area who wants some monitoring?

KO
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