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From: Robert Kern on 29 Dec 2009 16:44
On 2009-12-29 15:26 PM, Aahz wrote:
> In article<4b2602a0$0$30660$426a34cc(a)news.free.fr>,
> Bruno Desthuilliers<bruno.42.desthuilliers(a)websiteburo.invalid> wrote:
>> zeph a �crit :
>>>
>>> 4) It's better to collect all your eventual output into a string that
>>> you print
>>
>> Yuck ! Definitly one of the worst advises you could give.
>>
>> <OP>
>> By all mean, *DONT* do that. Use a templating system instead.
>> </OP>
>
> Because I know Zeph, I know that you two aren't actually disagreeing. ;-)
> Templates are one good way to follow Zeph's advice, but particularly for
> small projects they may be overkill.

I find that Ian Bicking's Tempita is small enough (in terms of code and language
design) to not be overkill for even small tasks.

http://pythonpaste.org/tempita/

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

From: Aaron Watters on 29 Dec 2009 19:12
Sancar wants to move from PHP to Python.

The following a shameless plug for WHIFF: http://whiff.sourceforge.net
-- I wrote it partially because I wanted PHP-like features using
Python, but better ;).

On Dec 11, 5:26 am, Sancar Saran <sancar.sa...(a)evodot.com> wrote:
> Greetings.

> ....After 3 days of crawling google, diving in python and cursing, now  I can show
> something on my linux/apache/mod_wsgi setup.

It's too bad you didn't find the WHIFF quickstart first :).
http://whiffdoc.appspot.com/docs/W0500.quickstart

> And i'm struck on something....
>
> My design depends on a Global Array. A huge array which store everything about
> requested Web page for a final rendering.
> In PHP accessing globals is easy. You may do direct access or use class
> something like ZEND Registry....
> 1-) Can I create Global (read/write access anywhere from my code) Multi
> dimensional, associative array (or hash) and store any kind of variable type.

There are a number of ways to do things like this in WHIFF
-- one way is to use the WSGI environment to store your
"globals" as illustrated in the Mako tutorial:
http://whiffdoc.appspot.com/docs/W1100_1075.MakoGrading

> 2-) Is there any error trigger for mod_wsgi. When something go bad I god
> Internal Server error. Looking for error log was't nice. Is there any way to
> shows errors in the web page ?

Configure your application to display tracebacks on errors.
I need to explicitly add this to the documentation, but here
is an example used by the WHIFF documentation app config:

59 whiffDocumentation = resolver.moduleRootApplication("/", docroot,
60 #exception_middleware=None,
61 environment=environment,
62 exception_middleware=displayTraceback.__middleware__,
63 on_not_found=None, # show traceback (could comment)
64 auto_reload=False,
65 )

lines 62 and 63 from
http://aaron.oirt.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/whiffRepo.cgi/file/4b2cea3d92fc/doc/servedocs.py

> 3-) Any documents books sites about helping moving from php to python

http://whiffdoc.appspot.com/ (doesn't explicitly mention PHP).

> 4-) In php we had something like
> ob_start(); // start Output buffering
> require('hede.php'); // include phtml similar to psp. mixed language and html
> (to avoiding string replacement (or marker based) html templates)
> $var = ob_get_clean(); // get rendered output and use anywhere
> can find a similar abilities in Python ?

Of course:

See the quoteHtml implementation, for example
http://aaron.oirt.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/whiffRepo.cgi/file/4b2cea3d92fc/whiff/middleware/quoteHtml.py

> 5-) is there any Python documentation based on examples. When I give up about
> to finding  php's $_REQUEST or $_SERVER equivalents in python some demo code in
> Twisted docs are much helpful than any other words. Me and my kind already
> have  problem with English language. Example code much more helpful than full
> academic description.

http://whiffdoc.appspot.com (again) there are lots and lots of
examples.

I hope you like it and have a happy new year! -- Aaron Watters

===
my resolution last year
was not to make any resolutions this year.
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