From: Bob Harris on
In article
<kurtullman-1307EB.08493104052008(a)70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <1igdr5b.ivyex91mh9tteN%burt(a)mindstorm-inc.com>,
> burt(a)mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:
>
> > Richard Maine <nospam(a)see.signature> wrote:
> >
> > > Be aware that the inital backup is awfully slow if you have much data.
> > > It can easily take a few days or more. I think mine took over a week.
> >
> > you must not have much data being backed up. Mine took 2 months... I
> > have 126GB on it right now. Back up rate is roughly 2GB per day.
>
> I am assuming that you can continue working on the computer during
> this time. Is that correct? What happens with any changes that occur
> while the initial upload is going on, do they get updated or will I need
> to another quick run to capture these after the intiial is completed?

Do it again, or just wait for the next automatic backup cycle.

> Do you back up everything including the OS and stuff like Word, or
> just other stuff?

You get to choose what to backup. I'm not doing the OS, but I'm
doing a few select areas, such as /Library. Backing up
applications can be useful if you have a habit of loosing your
distribution CD. Mozy doesn't care.

> Is this clonable or do I need to have that nearby to get the
> computer working in order to download the stuff from Mozy?

No, it is not a bootable backup. You will need to have a running
system to access the files from Mozy. Mozy is not trying to be
SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner. It is trying to give you
secure off-site storage.

As someone that has lost data in the past, I find the Mozy price
to be a great value.

> Thanks to all for the information.

Your welcome.

Bob Harris
From: Burt Johnson on
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am assuming that you can continue working on the computer during
> this time. Is that correct?

Yes. It runs in the background. There is an optional window that shows
you the status that I leave open. You can throttle back the amount of
network it uses either always or during certain times. I tell it to use
no more than 32kbs between 6PM and 2AM, which is when I am normally
using the computer during the week.

I wish I could also say 9AM-6PM on weekends, but it currently just has
one setting for all 7 days, and does not allow variation on specific
days of the week.

> What happens with any changes that occur
> while the initial upload is going on, do they get updated or will I need
> to another quick run to capture these after the intiial is completed?

The default setting is that it will start up whenver the computer is
idle. I changed that setting to tell it to start up at 2AM each day.
Thus, at 2AM it does a scan of my disk and uploads anything that has
changed. if I just dumped 4GB of new stuff (photos from a trip or
whatever), it may take a couple days to send it all, but then it returns
to checking every day at 2AM (or whatever time you tell it)

> Do you back up everything including the OS and stuff like Word, or
> just other stuff?

No. I tell it to back up all my music (40GB), documents folder (10GB)
and photos (80GB). You can choose sets they define (iTunes Music,
Movies, documents, Excel Spreadsheets, etc), or specify folders. I use
the latter mostly.

I listen to a lot of podcasts while commutting, and then discard them.
The default setting of saving your iTunes music includes all these. That
means Mozy was going non-stop since all those new podcasts kept getting
sent and then deleted.

Thus, I went into the configuration and told it NOT to save the podcasts
folder, but to do the rest of iTunes music. That got things back under
control for me.

> Is this clonable or do I need to have that nearby to get the
> computer working in order to download the stuff from Mozy?
> Thanks to all for the information.

You Mozy account is good for one computer. You can only upload stuff
from disks attached to that computer.

In our case, our photos were on my wife's computer. In order to include
them in this Mozy account, I moved them to an external disk and put them
on my computer, then told Mozy to back them up. I then shared the disk,
so my wife accesses her photos across our home office LAN.

--
- Burt Johnson
MindStorm, Inc.
http://www.mindstorm-inc.com/software.html
From: Kurt Ullman on
In article <1igeskf.mccoal15grx34N%burt(a)mindstorm-inc.com>,
burt(a)mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:

>
>
> I wish I could also say 9AM-6PM on weekends, but it currently just has
> one setting for all 7 days, and does not allow variation on specific
> days of the week.
Okay. So, it would probably work best if I did SuperDuper every week
to the portable HD to back up the whole thing and just my home folder to
Mozy on a continual basis. The portable DH slips rather nicely into my
computer case in case something dies on the road and I need the OS (and
given my line of work) Word in a HURRRRYYY!!!@!


> No. I tell it to back up all my music (40GB), documents folder (10GB)
> and photos (80GB). You can choose sets they define (iTunes Music,
> Movies, documents, Excel Spreadsheets, etc), or specify folders. I use
> the latter mostly.

My home folder would take care of all of these correct? Or am I
misunderstanding something. (Wouldn't be the first time)

>
> In our case, our photos were on my wife's computer. In order to include
> them in this Mozy account, I moved them to an external disk and put them
> on my computer, then told Mozy to back them up. I then shared the disk,
> so my wife accesses her photos across our home office LAN.

My wife pretty much only has photos on her MBP (that she inherited
from me when I got the bigger screen MBP.. Other than that it is a
glorified WebTV head. So, that could be restored from the discs if
needed.
From: Daniel Cohen on
Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:

> In addition, it only applies to the boot disk. External or
> network volumes are not included. However, if you have a 1TB boot
> disk, it is covered.
>
> I looked at it as $60/year without having to worry about how much
> storage I needed, it is off-site incase of a disaster, it is
> automatic, it is low overhead, and it works at home or on the
> road. For example, I just returned from a Florida vacation, and
> took about 2GB worth of digital pictures. Mozy was backing up
> those pictures every night in my hotel room, so I did not need to
> worry if something happened to my camera or my laptop during the
> trip (OK, I did worry a little, but only because I would miss my
> camera or laptop, not because I would loose the data).
>
> However, Mozy does NOT work though a proxy server. That is to say
> I can not use it behind the corporate firewall via the corporate
> proxy server.

I tried Mozy some time ago when it was in beta, and had too much trouble
with it ( iexpect it is much better now). As a result, I went with
JungleDisk. This is basically an interface to Amazon S3, wich is pretty
cheap. Mozy might well be more convenient, but anyone looking for
offsite backup should take a look at JungleDisk as well.

--
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From: Greg Buchner on
In article <1igeskf.mccoal15grx34N%burt(a)mindstorm-inc.com>,
burt(a)mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:

> You Mozy account is good for one computer. You can only upload stuff
> from disks attached to that computer.

I take it this applies to a paid account as I have my really important
data from two computers backed up to my free account.

Greg B.

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